How males are pushed towards becoming losers

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When you think of a loser you are probably envisioning a male. It's like female losers don't even exist and to the extent female losers do exist they are not really recognized as being losers the way males are discarded as losers and people will have sympathy for them.

Males does seem more prone to risk-taking and they are also expected to be successful even if it evolve taking risks. That make males prone towards falling into various traps

 

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Dying in wars and military service
Males are often expected to risk their lives as soldiers and this is often viewed as the height of masculinity even though you are kinda being a cuck following stupid orders and being bossed around. Often males are outright forced into military service but it's also very common that males enter into military service even though it was avoidable for them because of nationalism or because they felt lost in life (the US military in particular tend to attract males who already have various problems).

Even if serving in the military doesn't result in death (usually the case if it's just compulsory military 'education') it's still a massive time sink where a lot of time and effort is dedicated to something that doesn't advance their life in terms of earning a good income or getting a female partner.

A lot of people got upset over Trump allegedly calling military men suckers and losers even thought that is basically the reality of the situation. Males are generally not given much if any compensation for defending the country even when their service is very much needed to defend the state or to expand the borders.

 

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Negative sum games and gambling
Since males are often willing to take risks in an attempt to make money they often risk money even when doing so does not have a positive expected value.

I have actually spent some time playing poker and it's of course very hard to actually make a living from it for various reasons (high rake, people cheating online, few bad players, etc) but males often try anyway.

I myself actually tried playing real money poker recently and predictably it ended in failure with wasting 2 weeks making 0.13 sek. That was despite me developing a solid preflop theory and training myself with propriatory software (i used multiple solvers). I do remember getting a barely statistically significant profit earlier when i played on unibet NL4 but now the rake is higher and i am pretty sure the players are significantly better now than when i played there 5 years ago.

What i discovered was that it was very hard to get much of an edge even at the lowest stakes since the people who don't make money from it tends to stop playing once they figure out that they are losing money from it.

Call around 75% of the time (with 0 EV) in the nash equilubrium (the king of hears block flush combos).

But with these negative sum games there is a lot of variance so people are going to temporarily win money for a while due to luck and then falsely attribute that to something they did when in reality the expected value was always negative.

Males in particular are prone to being overconfident when it comes to negative sum games and then proceed to lose a lot of money. There is no shortage of men (it's almost always males for some reason) who think they have discovered a system for beating the house when in fact they have no such system or they think they have some winning daytrading strategy even though what they are doing isn't going to work long term.

https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/if-you-re-day-trading-you-will-probably-lose-money-here-s-why-1030667770?op=1

I remember trying short-term crypto trading many years ago but luckily i realized in time that what i was doing was stupid (could have ended really badly) and i actually ended up with a profit (such as from buying a scam-coin that later lost 99.9% of the value after i had already sold) but these are still greater fools game i generally prefer staying out of (i haven't traded crypto in many years).

Increasingly the crypto space has been filled with scams where it's mainly males who end up as badholders because males are the ones willing to take big risks investing into that bullshit. It's also a negative sum games due to various fees in addition to the mining cost that comes with generating the virtual currency and 'securing' the network.

There is also sportsbetting where you might be able to make some money (such as via arbitrage betting) before the site you are playing on bans your account due to you doing too well (they only want losers) and often people have their winnings frozen as well and getting that out can be a nightmare (if you get it out to begin with). There are sites that doesn't ban people for winning (exchange sites and sharp bookmakers) but making money on those sites is much harder due to you having to compete against other skilled betters not allowed on the betting site that only want losers.

 

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Video games
Videogames is something i have mixed feelings about since while it does tend to consume a lot of money and time primarily from males it does tend to at least be a relatively safe activity to engage in. Being a soldier in a videogame is definitely preferable to risking your life as a soldiers in the real world.

Videogames tend to primarily target a male audience and a lot of games are predatory in trying to get people (mainly males) to spend money, that also tend to result in the game becoming worse for everyone but that is sadly how mobile games tend to operate these days.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNjI03CGkb4

There is also more competitive multiplayer games and that is also something males tend to gravitate to but that also tend to push males towards spending a lot of time trying to get better at it.

Personally i prefer single player games where you can play as a nice female character and where you get some option for clothing (being able to put on a nice dress, etc). Currently i occasionally play Code Vein or Allice madness returns.

I also like playing poker recreationally such as with friends/relatives or by entering into a freeroll tournament.

 

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Testosterone
It does seem like testosterone does make males prone towards taking risks even when taking those risks is very much stupid. I have tried looking up studies for this but it's surprisingly hard to get good answers.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5964298/

One theory i have is that testosterone numbs emotion and that this causes males to be prone towards more extreme actions (often to the point of endangering themselves or others).

Of course some males are able to do just fine but a lot of males end up making very bad decisions in life and in those cases we have to look into if a different hormone profile (such as higher estrogen) would serve them better.

 

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Lack of social support
It's very common for males to be socially isolated and this makes them prime targets for people looking to take advantage of them. A lot of males losing their live-savings on crypto did so because they basically joined some online cult.

And because male have that strong pressure to be successful they are prone towards buying into some scam in a failed attempt to make money.

People are also much more willing to help females out who are in trouble while males instead tend to be neglected and people will make fun of them for failing. There is no shortage of males willing to provide support for a female especially if it results in them entering into a relationship.

WonderfulPresent9026 wrote:

1 ) most people dont "chose to go to war when war actually comes more often their forced into it i wouldn't call that falling into a trap and call it what it is which i legal slavery.
2) i think the big difference between men and women is actually just their access to safty nets. Men dont get the same level of access to grats or scholarships. Dont get the same access to jobs both from dei but even the fact that alot of low income bit safe and low expirence jobs customer service, baby sitting, teaching are basically all female. Most social service are directed at women men make up like 80 percent of tax revenue while women recive like 90% of it.
On top of all that if a women still some how mamages to fail she has the further saftly net of either leaching off of a man through child support marraofe or just simply hooking up with a bunch of simps off and on making them pay for stuff.
And if even that fails they have prostitution to fall back on.
Honestly to me the bigger question is with all these advantages women have how any manage to fail at all.

3. Third factor is lower expectations. A guy living with his parents at twenty without a ride is consudered low value.

A woman in the exact same situation with be chased after.

vintologi24 wrote:

As for conscription: it's actually fairly common that there are ways to escape it but a lot of males are feel like they have some duty to serve or whatever and then risk their lives (or at least waste years of their life) because of that.

WonderfulPresent9026

I mean the ukrain russia war is a pretty large scale example of guys literally being kidnaped and shipped to a war they never wanted to fight on threat of death or imprisonment.

World war one and two were also great examples.

Im not saying propaganda doesnt influence alot of guys to genuinely join the military thinking its a good idea.

 

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it comes down to SMV and sexual exp. the gynocentric normie ranking system.