Why i stopped encouraging incels to transition
I realized a while back that in addition to being able to treat gender dysphoria and give people bodies they like better HRT could also be used to reliably escape involuntary celibacy in the case of people born male.
You dont have to date other males after transitioning (other transbians is an option) and you do not have to "cut your dick off" (not actually what SRS does).
Regarding suicide: the actual suicide mortality is probably higher among incels than transgender people.
https://imgur.com/a/CNzVhR2
https://gids.nhs.uk/number-referrals
Some people have claimed reverse dysphoria would become a problem but studies on intersex children indicate that a big portion of the male population would handle having a female body just fine.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1421518/
Also there have been cases of AFAB individuals detransitioning despite the fact that transitioning cured their dysphoria because being incel and generally unwanted was worse than suffering from body dysphoria.
So if it works why not just encourage incels to transition so they can live better life?
There are two major reasons for that
As for problem 2: other people can still try to help them if they feel like doing that and i am we are also willing to help anyone who comes to us for help.
Would i push incels to transition if it wasn't beneficial for them to do so?
I don't think that would be a good idea since then it might backfire at the general trans community, people would use that and claim "look how predatory transgender people are", detransitioners are already being used by transphobes to advocate for making it more difficult to transition medically.
The sad reality is that a significant portion of incels probably suffer from gender dysphoria but are unwilling to transition due to transphobic views, instead they hate on woman out of jealousy, especially sexually active females.
This subreddit was always indented to support anyone wishing to transition from male to female.
The difference is that i and other people here are willing to focus on social factors most people are unwilling to talk about or even acknowledge such as the fact that males are becoming increasingly obsolete and it would be even worse for males if it wasn't for the fact that monogamy is still mostly the norm.
Transition is still easier to justify when someone doesn't have a wife/girlfriend and cannot get one, in that case i don't really see any good reasons for repressing your desire to be female, you just living a bad life when you don't have to.
It's more complicated when someone is in a relationship and considers transition and i am not sure what i should advocate for in this cases. There are cases where the wife encouraged his 'husband' to transition due to severe dysphoria only to leave him/her later.
I realized a while back that in addition to being able to treat gender dysphoria and give people bodies they like better HRT could also be used to reliably escape involuntary celibacy in the case of people born male.
You dont have to date other males after transitioning (other transbians is an option) and you do not have to "cut your dick off" (not actually what SRS does).
Regarding suicide: the actual suicide mortality is probably higher among incels than transgender people.
https://imgur.com/a/CNzVhR2
https://gids.nhs.uk/number-referrals
Some people have claimed reverse dysphoria would become a problem but studies on intersex children indicate that a big portion of the male population would handle having a female body just fine.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1421518/
Also there have been cases of AFAB individuals detransitioning despite the fact that transitioning cured their dysphoria because being incel and generally unwanted was worse than suffering from body dysphoria.
So if it works why not just encourage incels to transition so they can live better life?
There are two major reasons for that
- most incels will not voluntary transition even if they would benefit from it in every way.
- most incels are really unpleasant people so i cannot really justify actively going after them trying to help them.
As for problem 2: other people can still try to help them if they feel like doing that and i am we are also willing to help anyone who comes to us for help.
Would i push incels to transition if it wasn't beneficial for them to do so?
I don't think that would be a good idea since then it might backfire at the general trans community, people would use that and claim "look how predatory transgender people are", detransitioners are already being used by transphobes to advocate for making it more difficult to transition medically.
The sad reality is that a significant portion of incels probably suffer from gender dysphoria but are unwilling to transition due to transphobic views, instead they hate on woman out of jealousy, especially sexually active females.
This subreddit was always indented to support anyone wishing to transition from male to female.
The difference is that i and other people here are willing to focus on social factors most people are unwilling to talk about or even acknowledge such as the fact that males are becoming increasingly obsolete and it would be even worse for males if it wasn't for the fact that monogamy is still mostly the norm.
Transition is still easier to justify when someone doesn't have a wife/girlfriend and cannot get one, in that case i don't really see any good reasons for repressing your desire to be female, you just living a bad life when you don't have to.
It's more complicated when someone is in a relationship and considers transition and i am not sure what i should advocate for in this cases. There are cases where the wife encouraged his 'husband' to transition due to severe dysphoria only to leave him/her later.