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I've tried basically two different experiments that went against nature. The first was, to see if I could get a wife and just be like, "Okay, I'm giving you my companionship, and in return you should support me." I basically did what chicks will often do with a dude, which is help get her established. Kinda like how a chick will iron her husband's clothes and pick out his outfits and prepare his lunch for work, I helped her get her green card, driver's license, etc. so she could work.
Didn't work. As soon as she had all that stuff, she left and accused me of rape. Recently I found a baby registry that says she's having another guy's kid; this is the same guy who's on record as having cohabited with her for awhile. He also is the guy who signed the affidavit for the divorce saying that he's been hanging around with her at her residence and therefore can swear that she didn't cohabit with me in the past six months (since a six-month separation was required for the divorce). So she dumped me for a guy who could be a better provider.
Recently, I saw the femcel side of the situation. A chick who devoted herself to her career figured she could just buy me, basically. She could just support me, and then she could call the shots, in terms of deciding how many kids we're going to have, and whatnot.
Didn't work. I didn't submit. I know one dude who says he would like to get with some career chick who would support him, but he's the kind of guy who would cheat on any girlfriend or wife (he says he's always cheated in every relationship). So basically he'd take her provisioning and then look for a submissive chick on the side. In other words, he's not gonna submit either.
There probably are some cucks who tried their hardest to submit; e.g. I have a brother-in-law who even let my sister cheat on him with other guys. She dumped his ass too. Women try to get men to submit sometimes, but they don't actually want a submissive man. Heck, this dude was even paying a few grand a month to put a roof over their heads, and she still left him; his submissiveness was that much of a turn-off that even provisioning wasn't enough to keep her around.
You can't get away from the natural order. Men are supposed to provide for their wife, and call the shots in the household. Women are supposed to be submissive and let their husband financially support them. Experiments to try to get away from this tend to fail.
What will end up happening is that the husband will always try to be dominant, and the wife will always try to get her husband to provide for the family. And so, if they don't fulfill their proper roles, either she's going to end up accusing him of rape, or she's going to end up leaving, or both. Or I guess in my friend Drake's case, he'll end up cheating. Or in the case of, e.g., my mom, she'll end up cheating.
Men need to be men and women need to be women; there's no getting around this. If they can't fulfill their role, then they need to just give up.
Incels and femcels are kinda shit outta luck in this equation; they need to find some other source of partial fulfillment in life. I wrote elsewhere about the options femcels have available to them. https://vintologi.com/threads/the-incel-question.236/post-1410 They can become a single mom, or they can become the sister wife in some polygynous union, or they can be spinsters. A lot of women just become sluts till they can't ride the carousel anymore, although with options like playing the cougar, and thereby taking advantage of desperately horny teenage boys, that could potentially be a long ride. The problem with that is, chicks just always tend to want an older "daddy" figure who can provide for them.
I actually have to agree somewhat with Sarge that incels will just need to take a whitepill essentially, and pursue some other mission besides chicks. The good-looking loser has a few options (e.g. knocking up chicks and then getting dumped when she's ready to provisioning from Steven A. Poindexter), but they all kinda suck, just like all of the femcel's options suck. Yeah, nearcels and femcels can get together sometimes, but it doesn't mean that's gonna last.
Didn't work. As soon as she had all that stuff, she left and accused me of rape. Recently I found a baby registry that says she's having another guy's kid; this is the same guy who's on record as having cohabited with her for awhile. He also is the guy who signed the affidavit for the divorce saying that he's been hanging around with her at her residence and therefore can swear that she didn't cohabit with me in the past six months (since a six-month separation was required for the divorce). So she dumped me for a guy who could be a better provider.
Recently, I saw the femcel side of the situation. A chick who devoted herself to her career figured she could just buy me, basically. She could just support me, and then she could call the shots, in terms of deciding how many kids we're going to have, and whatnot.
Didn't work. I didn't submit. I know one dude who says he would like to get with some career chick who would support him, but he's the kind of guy who would cheat on any girlfriend or wife (he says he's always cheated in every relationship). So basically he'd take her provisioning and then look for a submissive chick on the side. In other words, he's not gonna submit either.
There probably are some cucks who tried their hardest to submit; e.g. I have a brother-in-law who even let my sister cheat on him with other guys. She dumped his ass too. Women try to get men to submit sometimes, but they don't actually want a submissive man. Heck, this dude was even paying a few grand a month to put a roof over their heads, and she still left him; his submissiveness was that much of a turn-off that even provisioning wasn't enough to keep her around.
You can't get away from the natural order. Men are supposed to provide for their wife, and call the shots in the household. Women are supposed to be submissive and let their husband financially support them. Experiments to try to get away from this tend to fail.
What will end up happening is that the husband will always try to be dominant, and the wife will always try to get her husband to provide for the family. And so, if they don't fulfill their proper roles, either she's going to end up accusing him of rape, or she's going to end up leaving, or both. Or I guess in my friend Drake's case, he'll end up cheating. Or in the case of, e.g., my mom, she'll end up cheating.
Men need to be men and women need to be women; there's no getting around this. If they can't fulfill their role, then they need to just give up.
Incels and femcels are kinda shit outta luck in this equation; they need to find some other source of partial fulfillment in life. I wrote elsewhere about the options femcels have available to them. https://vintologi.com/threads/the-incel-question.236/post-1410 They can become a single mom, or they can become the sister wife in some polygynous union, or they can be spinsters. A lot of women just become sluts till they can't ride the carousel anymore, although with options like playing the cougar, and thereby taking advantage of desperately horny teenage boys, that could potentially be a long ride. The problem with that is, chicks just always tend to want an older "daddy" figure who can provide for them.
I actually have to agree somewhat with Sarge that incels will just need to take a whitepill essentially, and pursue some other mission besides chicks. The good-looking loser has a few options (e.g. knocking up chicks and then getting dumped when she's ready to provisioning from Steven A. Poindexter), but they all kinda suck, just like all of the femcel's options suck. Yeah, nearcels and femcels can get together sometimes, but it doesn't mean that's gonna last.
