Private trackers

Admin · Aug 28, 2024

OPS would be even worse if it wasn't for RED
One of the reason why OPS get's away with having a dysfunctional economy is that a lot of uploads there are simply re-uploads from RED.

So it doesn't really serve as a backup in the case something bad would happen to RED since if RED goes down OPS would begin to work significantly worse unless/until staff their somehow fixed their economy (which is hard to do once it's already dysfunctional).

komata_kya wrote:

Truth is, OPS wouln't be even half as good if it wasn't for RED. Just look at how many torrent are just crossposts from RED. People might get a wrong idea where they think OPS works better than it actually is, because it is being subsidized by RED uploaders. Like what's the goal of a hard economy, when OPS is easy and it works fine, not realizing REDs hard economy actually helps OPS.

vintologi24 wrote:

Of course but getting things easily without effort will always be appealing to people.

Doing things like ripping CDs take effort.

Going over your old WHAT downloads to see if anything there can be uploaded to RED takes effort.

Fixing bad metadata tags manually takes effort.

Ripping from streaming services takes effort.

And we need people to do those things in order to have a good library of content. We need more uploads to RED, not less.

https://www.reddit.com/r/trackers/comments/1f35wui/red_economy_ops_economy/

Admin · Aug 29, 2024

Another redditor banned for asking for invite
Turns out that trackers are very strict with regard to rules regarding invites, this isn't exactly something new.

mangoboy0 wrote:

Banned from GGn for no reason?
We were talking on IRC about other trackers and then I asked a simple question. I asked if people know any music trackers other than RED where I can actually download music and not be treated like shit. Some nice people answered, telling me I should go to OPS.

I was very excited to join and accidentally asked for an invite. An admin looked into my profile and then I was banned.

This is so weird and confusing. It was an accident, I didn't really mean it. I was even a Legendary Gamer, which is huge. It's the 3rd to last rank. Not many people can achieve this.

I respect staff, but this was outrageous. It's stupid and unfair. I believe you should just buy games instead of dealing with this stupid bullshit.
People who were there likely know what happened.

2fa_allthethings wrote:

OP asked for invites multiple times in IRC over the course of a few days. Even asking if he can trade ggn invite for a ptp invite on another tracker.

Not once, not twice, but multiple times.

OP was basically doing a speedrun on how to get banned.

vintologi24 wrote:

btw: you could have just applied in the recruitment thread.

Well you did get banned from GGn now so that's no good there, sure they might unban you if you are really lucky there but good luck getting access to the invite forum back.

You could check out the invite forum for the tracker you hate so much but maybe GGn has reported the incident to RED so you might be fucked there too, or they reported it to OPS in which case you are might no longer be able to join there.

LakeAccomplished2656 wrote:

This is the hilarious part. It would have been so easy to already be on OPS or RED.

HlantiChrist TL Staff (verified) wrote:

Someone is banned from TorrentLeech for "No Reason" as well.

mangoboy0 wrote and later deleted:

I hate everyone who talked about me in IRC
Apparently some users talked about me in IRC. A kind soul has shown me IRC logs and I have some words for you.

First of all, the guy whose name begins with an A and ends with an S and has a Y in the middle. You suck balls. Fuck you. I thought we were friends and you just talk shit about me like that.

The second fuck you is directed at the person whose name ends with 00a0. You talk too much. You enjoyed my ban? Well enjoy this: (cant find middle finger emoji)

Third fuck you goes to the pug. You've always hated me and I felt the same for you. I hate you a lot. Nobody likes you.

The rest of you also suck cocks. Fuck all of you idiots.

Admin · Aug 30, 2024

Now someone claiming to be mangoboy claims that he was impersonated
Interestingly he claims now that he wasn't ignorant on what he was doing and he is now merely trying to at least get access to other trackers back.

-jarburg- wrote:

I was impersonated on /r/trackers - The real mangoboy story. And an appeal to MaM, TL and other beloved trackers' administration. Please read.
The post that impersonated me in question - Banned from GGn for no reason

It is quite fantastic to me how and why I was impersonated on reddit. I am a nobody.

Yet following this post I was banned from many of my beloved trackers - MaM, TL, Emp to name a few. And I'm sure whoever it was will be lurking, see this post too and be giddy about it, but that's okay, that's a side effect, I am however forced to tell my own story now, which is bizzare too because Im a nobody.

However, my hope in telling this story is at least getting my other tracker accounts to the state they were in before this post was made and a collective decision was taken between the site owners to blacklist me. The previous state was having my account enabled but invite privileges banned.
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The story
Here's the thing. Im dumb. But not malicious.

Let me say it again. Im dumb. But not malicious.

Did I ask for invites in GGn-IRC? Yes. Not all of those times are "asking" though. For instance, when I was talking about Cinemabytes and PTP invites in the screenshot - https://pastebin.com/A9mQMtfc - the context was that we were discussing PTP's high requirements in GGn. Then I said I need CB invite - not asking for it - but mentioning to other users that I want to get into it - so the "need an invite" in that context was not from a user but from the forums. And the "i'll suck your dick for a ptp invite" is an obvious - in context - joke at the time.

However, I cannot argue upon that since with the subsequent ban all perspective in history changes. So if you say now that "hey man, youre lying it was clearly you asking and maybe hoping youd get it" I don't have anything to refute you with because of my eventual GGn ban.
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Do I contest my GGn ban?
No.

The post in question feigns ignorance. The real mangoboy - me - does not.

I said before I am dumb and not malicious. But I am dumb. I'm not going to over-explain it though and will tell you right now that the ban was fair despite my idiocy.

Maybe the only point of contest if I were to have one is that its a permanent lifetime ban. I wish it was an year ban or so but they do treat such cases of members asking for invites quite strictly.

So, yes, the ban was fair. I contested it only once - right after the ban - and talked with the admin Mr. Ze- (I will not finish their name for privacy purposes, those who know, know) who let me know there was no chance of it reversing.
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GGn ban's effect on me
My GGn ban effected me profoundly. It would seem fantastical too but after the ban I felt a very dull void. Its the feeling of losing access to good things, you know? Getting fired from a good job, losing out on a great girl, etc. The feeling of loss.

I know its just a tracker - there are more - but GGn was a GOOD thing. And it saddened - saddens - me that I lost on it.

I chose right then to not put myself in such a spot again. You have to know this about me, im a fighter, a hustler and I like to win. The probability of me not learning from this experience would mean losing out on good things in the future - a great job, a good girl, you know?

The ban was a profound experience of loss. Still is. Right away I packed my PC. I identified that I had become a chronic addict of the internet. I spent my days reading, studying, getting really bored, really depressed, thinking of my GGn dwarves that would net no gems anymore, listening to audiodramas and just being offline.

A few days later I wrote [an apology letter] (https://litter.catbox.moe/cylceu.pdf) addressed to Mr. Ze- and other administration of GGn. I never posted it because its too soon, Im not changed, and it wouldnt be genuine either.

The only reason I choose to publish it now is because of that impersonator tarnishing my feelings for private tracker scene and getting me banned from all my beloved trackers where I'd lovingly invested a great amount of material - I'd uploaded a lot of obscure but popular stuff on MaM. Its my favourite tracker.
I hope any who reads it realises the sincerity in that letter and my words.
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My situation with other trackers following the ban
After my ban of GGn, other trackers, rightfully so, disabled my invite privileges. Meaning, I could use the site but I could not invite nor be invited anywhere else. That is fair.

First when I lost my invite privileges on Empornium I messaged the staff asking why. They replied "I think you remember what happened in the irc of another tracker an hour ago, be happy just youre invite privileges are banned". They were right. I was happy. And I was scared too, so I never replied. I didn't want to say anything to hurt myself.

And that was the situation. I was just using the trackers. And I'd decided to stay like this forever. Just use the trackers for my needs and stay lowkey.
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The impersonator's effect on other sites
Today, however, I woke up to find my MaM, TL and EMP accounts banned. I talked to MaM IRC and they let me know of this impersonating reddit post. Because of the post I went from being someone who was banned from the invite aspect of the private trackers to someone who's now blacklisted altogether.
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My appeal to MaM, TL and Emp
I am sorry I have to reaching like this but via my talks in the IRC it was communicated to me that it cannot be reversed. There was a healthy speculation that the reddit user u/mangoboy0 was in fact me and that the step to go from having my invite-privileges banned to complete ban is the right course of things.

I would like to make an appeal to the site owners to allow my accounts to go back to the previous state - the state before the impersonating reddit post was made - that is, invite privileges banned.

If you were to peruse my accounts they are healthy, respectable and dedicated.

Imagine my surprise when a collective decision to ban me was taken following this post. I have no reason nor intention to disrespect the scene. I am myself a committed - if very dumb - member of the scene too. Please do not brandish the intention of the misguided fool who impersonated me upon me.
I request you to unban my MaM, TL and EMP accounts and have them go back to the state they were before the reddit post but after the GGn ban.
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Afterthoughts
Ofc this is probably in vain. Reversing a decision is harder than making it. So idk how big of a hope do I have in having this post be effective in getting me my MaM account (which I consider the most precious of all). I don't know where I'll go for books and radio shows. I am quite addicted to both.

But in any case, I was forced to make this post following the impersonation. Goes to show that bad luck multiplies. I also cannot ignore my own accountability in giving way to such a troll.

I'm also aware there will be many comments saying - "Top 10 reasons why you fucked up" and some having some sympathy. I will not be replying to any. I think I've said all I wanted to in this post and so I will not be taking part in the ensuing discussion. Like I've said, I'm packing this PC soon.

In any case, mangoboy was an alias i used exclusively on trackers. I don't think my MaM account will be unbanned so I'll probably have to look elsewhere for books.

But still, I felt it was right for me to clear up the complex misunderstanding and the story that was of this iteration of my internet persona - mangoboy.
I'm definitive that I'll use this opportunity as a catalyst to better my real life and will just earn more to afford the stuff - audiobooks, books, games, etc - that i need.

So, unless my accounts on MaM, TL and Emp get unbanned, the journey of mangoboy and my own 1.5yr of solid journey with private trackers is done with.

It was quite a wonderful subsection of society I came across and was quite fun.

Everyone, take care, treat your accounts right, and share information freely.

Farewell, The real mangoboy.

aside24 wrote:

Impersonation is rampant on IRC trackers. I've heard multiple cases of people being banned on trackers because someone else used their tracker profile as 'community standing proof'

It's a real problem but staff just doesn't care. They don't doublecheck, they don't believe anything and just ban ban ban

For all the love that's going around in piracy & trackers, there's a whole lot of unbased deleting of people their accounts going around

vintologi24 wrote:

I am not sure if the impersonation (assuming it was actually impersonation rather than your first failed attempt at reversing the ban) was the cause of you getting cabal ban.

It's standard practice that bad users are reported to other trackers as well so they also get banned there.

-jarburg- wrote:

Yeah, TL told me unless I have absolute proof that the impersonated account isnt me they cant do anything about it. I can't absolutely prove that u/mangoboy0 wasn't me. I don't have access to the IP they were using on reddit and match it with my own. Their account is suspended so I can't even check for a join date. Even if I could that still wouldn't "absolutely" prove its not me.

How do you even do that? Absolutely prove that the account impersonating you isn't you?

vintologi24 wrote:

I actually figured out a way in which you might be able to prove that.
But i think you are screwed regardless.

-jarburg- wrote:

Its okay, I don't care now. Youve been quite invested in the thread so thank you for that.

-jarburg- wrote:

Like I said after the ban I had my invite privileges banned from many trackers. That was fair. The cabal ban happened after the post. My appeal mentions getting back to the state after the GGn ban but before the impersonating post.

About your claim that the earlier post was my first failed attempt at reversing the ban - Idk what I can say except trust me - because anything i say can probably be refuted. It's just politics, I guess.

vintologi24 wrote:

I moderate a discord server and we sometimes start with a less severe measure (such as timeout) and then we decide that further action is needed.
That's likely what happened in your case.

First step was to take away your invite perms but then they decided that further actions were needed.

-jarburg- wrote:

I understand. Like I said in the main post body that after my GGn ban I disappeared. I just stayed lowkey. It was the impersonated reddit post that got me cabal banned.

vintologi24 wrote:

I am pretty sure the cabal ban was coming regardless.

-jarburg- wrote:

Again, Like I said in the main body - Emp admins said I should be happy only my invite privileges were banned. After my GGn ban theyd decided the state of my other accounts. It was only after the impersonated post that I was cabal banned.

So a cabal ban could not probably have been coming "regardless".

I don't think youve read my post.

vintologi24 wrote:

I guess you can keep telling yourself that.

This new update to the story was a bit underwhelming, i was hoping for something more funny, kinda disappointing.

Zykr3 wrote:

honestly i can‘t even tell if this is a shit post or not. the wording and the GGn apology letter (this one had me rolling dude just the way you formatted the first „T“ on the first page like its some 18th century gothic novel LMFAOO) seems completely excessive to be genuine.
but anyways, real or fake, i think decisions like that take some time. you probably would have gotten banned for this alone:

2024-08-16 14:30:25 <mangoboy> <staff>, in all honestly ive got a question for you, can i exchange GGn invite for a PTP invite on another tracker?

invite exchange is an offense that will get you banned on every tracker you are on. i doubt that the post (impersonated or not) was the sole reason for the ban on other trackers.

oh and btw: this is the first time i‘ve heard of CB. are they affiliated with AB?

byParallax wrote:

Scrolled through the post and letter and honestly as someone who’s had to manage plenty of online communities my assumption is that whoever received that must have immediately thought « fuck who cares I’m not reading all that ». It’s tooooo much.

-jarburg- wrote:

More clarification and context based on my comments in the screenshot - https://pastebin.com/A9mQMtfc

When I become Legendary Gamer i see I'll get 2 invites a month, I wanna profit too, therefore, asking for tips to insure against bad account

The person who invited me gets a bonus everytime I ranked up. I thought I could do the same. I've seen many unofficial invite posts on trackers. Thought I can too create these (barring those that have a "DONT POST INVITE FOR THESE TRACKERS HERE" post). Was asking advice for how to spot bad account. Mr. Lepik then said its for inviting people you know, a privilege, that was that.

If anyone can give me an invite to CinemaBytes I'll be soooooooo happy

It was not in my memory that I explicity asked for it. Guess I did. I've got no excuse.

in all honestly ive got a question for you, can i exchange GGn invite for a PTP invite on another tracker?

Like I said, Im dumb but not malicious. My reasoning was if I were doing anything dumb the members who stop me. Mr. Lepik did stop me here and said "I would tell anyone who is even thinking about it in the STRICTEST terms to not do it".

Ohh awesome, does anyone have an invite?

This is the one that got me banned. I've got no excuse.

Why did I ever ask for invites on IRC anyway?

Idk, they said its okay to invite your friends, felt I was friends with IRC members. Dunno. Bad judgement.

Afterthoughts
I've got no qualms about the GGn ban. Still, thought to clear it since I didnt in the main post body. My main appeal is to just reverse the effect of the impersonation post on my account but to not reverse the effect of GGn ban on them.

But besides the appeal, its just an action Im being forced to take after the post that impersonated me.

LinkinsRepeater GGn staff (verified) wrote:

Yeah I was impersonated once by [deleted] too.

Feelsbadman

-jarburg-
•27m ago•Edited 10m ago

Look man, no need to be cheeky.

Here's the post if you want it - https://web.archive.org/web/20240902100638/https://old.reddit.com/r/trackers/comments/1f720p5/i_was_impersonated_on_rtrackers_the_real_mangoboy/

I deleted it because ultimately each tracker was still asking me to prove how u/mangoboy0 - the original poster of the post - was not me. I cant obviously do that, im not reddit admin or have links to them.

I'll tell you this, Link. Before that post all other trackers had only invite-banned me. But after that post Im permabanned from all trackers for life. I can't dispute it. I can't say anything about it. And the particular tracker admins just tell me my appeal was rejected without even reading what i had to say.

Its like the fucking mafia. Its fucking easy to ban so they ban. And all bans are lifetimes. A consensus between site owners was reached behind my back instigated by a fucking reddit impersonation - probably by someone experienced who knew this would work - and now im cabal banned.

The invite-ban was fair. But getting perma-banned because of some impersonator i cant obviously prove isn't me? Thats fucking absurd, bro. All in the end to have the admins say "Oh well even if it isnt you we're sure youd be banned soon.". Absurd. Nobody can say that. I would've stayed at that neutered invite-banned state for all life and stayed low-key if not for the impersonated post.

Its absolutely fucked up that there are no failsaves for impersonation.

Not one person in your lot of admins willing to say to your cabal committee that aight yk why not talk with him? Maybe it isn't him? If we're convinced we'll just re-instate his account to its earlier state.

But nah, its just easy to ban and keep the ban active cause the first commandment is that the word is absolute. Lack of empathy and lack of fairness.
My GGn account was lost to me by my own actions. That's fair. Then I got invite-banned on other trackers by my own actions. That's fair. But getting permabanned because your cabal committee thinks a laughable impersonation is real is not by my action and its grossly unfair.
The cabal committee lacks empathy and understanding. Its sad.

And I'll tell you this - This is a loss for me. A real loss. In time youll forget me, Ill forget you, all my needs and requirements will be morphed and met in other ways. But the premise of my banned accounts is a blot on the operation of your cabal committees and its fucked up how trigger happy you lot are. And how deaf too.

I lost access to books, audiobooks, and generally safe trackers because of that post. I committed an offense on your site - GGn and i got banned from there. That's fair. But getting banned from other trackers too where I was good? Where I stayed lowkey - only downloaded and fucked off? Instigated by a reddit post? Thats fucked up.

And they tell me if I can get GGn to say "its okay guys we don't mind him on your site" that they might consider it. But nah, when I tell Phantasm that can he appeal to a senior staff he says no.

Block all the fucking ways to a solution. Fucking wrongful outcome. Its sad. Its a loss for me. But whatever, life goes on, we adapt.
Anyway I deleted the post because i didnt want anymore drama in the tracker scene from reddit users. But since you're being cheeky about it there you go have the link.

Cheers.

Admin · Aug 31, 2024

Advice from TL staff (verified)
Most of this should be obvious to people but somehow isn't.

HlantiChrist wrote:

My advice to everyone who are wanting to join/be/are a member of a private tracker.
Just to start off. I have been everything from first line support, to an admin, and I've been staff at several trackers over 13 years. I like to think I know what I am talking about. Here are my pro tips on how to get along.

#1. Be respectful, towards staff, and other users. If someone pisses you off, either ignore them, or report them. Do not confront them.
#2. Nobody owes you anything. Do not demand stuff, ask politely. Nobody cares if you have seeded 3000 tb of data, it does not matter. Your attitude and behavior trumps anything you may have done in the past. Lot's of people have good stats, and in the grand scheme of things, your 200 tb upload contribution, is never enough to carry special favors.
#3. IF you are disabled, come clean. It is your best chance to get your account restored. We ALWAYS know a lot more than you THINK we know. When you lie, you seal your fate.
#4. Ask! If you are unsure about rules or how to do stuff. Believe me, we have heard it all before, and we know how to help. It is why we are here. I can't even begin to tell you how many people get screwed because they don't ASK when they don't KNOW. Assumptions is the mother of all fuck-ups.
#5. Invites are a privilege, not a right. Only, invite people you KNOW and TRUST. You gain NOTHING by giving them to random people, beyond risking inviting people that can get YOU banned, and, perhaps worst of all, people you previously invited can get banned.
#6. This should be obvious. Never ARGUE with staff. It is ok to disagree, but you need to accept their word as gospel. They are not required to explain their reasoning, nor do you have any rights. There is no appeals board, crying on reddit after you where banned will not make any difference. May seem unfair, but that's just how it is.

New topic: It's always been a mystery to me, how some people think going on rants, etc will make anyone want to help them in any way. Yet, it happens a lot.

Generally, we will treat even rude users politely, but starting off by telling the staff-member who is trying to help you what a big idiot he is for disabling you in the first place, is rarely a good idea. If you are raging/pissed off, give it a day, and calm down before contacting staff, coming in, guns blazing, will not help you, in any way, except it might feel good at the time. Though that generally wears off after a while. Kinda like pissing your pants to keep warm.
I have restored accounts to users, who rightfully should have been permanently disabled due to their actions. But, because they came clean, where respectful, and showed some ability to do some self reflection, They were given a second, and in some cases even a third chance. Being respectful and honest will very rarely hurt your chances in life in general(Except when talking to police, never do that without a lawyer).

Look at it from MY point of view: Helping nice people = Feels nice. = Makes ME want to help YOU.

And now, for the n00bs: "But how do I join a private tracker to begin with?" That's actually the wrong question. What you should ask, is "How do I NOT join a private tracker?" It is a much easier question to answer.
#1. Do not buy an invite from anywhere but the tracker itself, though if they straight up sell invites, I'd be skeptical to begin with.
#2. Don't accept an invite from a RANDOM user outside of a private tracker class restricted forum.
#3. Do not trade invites, anywhere.
#4. Do not ask anyone for an invite, unless you know them. Never do it in a public forum.
If you follow those four simple rules, you shouldn't have to worry about getting disabled over where you got your invite.
Ok, sure, this may be somewhat simplified, but, that's my honest advice. And I do appreciate that your experience may vary/have varied in the past.

Diazepam_Abuser wrote:

but people on r/trackers told me that all staffers are evil self obsessed assholes on a power trip. It's true! Last time i got banned from 10 different trackers just for saying "Hello!" in the forums. I don't think me trading invites, being racist and picking fights over the smallest things possible had anything to do with it.

Well written post !

NotSeger wrote:

I bet it was in one of those “cabal” trackers. I heard their mods are all mean and ban you for no reason. You can’t even beg for invites on IRC without losing your account.

/s

hpass wrote:

I only asked three times, and I was a power user. Power user is uuuuuuge.

projektilski wrote:

This should be obvious. Never ARGUE with staff. It is ok to disagree, but you need to accept their word as gospel

That elitist self-righteous shit is what makes me never want to join a private tracker.
I have a life, and to waste it on a private tracker with that kind of admins, why

HlantiChrist wrote:

That's them facts of joining a privately owned company. No different if you walk into a restaurant and start arguing with the waiter. It's not a democracy. You are allowed to voice your opinion, on most trackers. We - encourage it, in our forums. Feedback is always welcome. But once you start to argue with a staff member. You need to remember who owns and operates the site. It's not you. The reason I use the term Staff, as a general term, is I can't speak for everyone else, but I generally have a very high level of tolerance. Other's may not. If a staff member is having a bad day, and a user comes along to tell them how to do shit. That may not end well. I am not saying it's right. But I am saying that's just how it is. It is like being in court. Sure, calling the judge an asshole is fun, right then and there, but it's rarely a good idea.

vintologi24 wrote:

While you are a user of a tracker obviously doesn't own the site itself you are still perhaps contributing a lot to the seed (uploading, seeding, etc).

If staff were to screw up too badly a lot of higher value users would migrate to some other place.

I personally like how RED is managed so i am adding a lot of content to that site.

Admin · Sep 2, 2024

Why i don't argue with staff
If a site is incompetently run the only rational recourse is to migrate somewhere else once you are given that opportunity. Even if i don't care if they ban my account i am still not going to be overly confrontational, i will just let the site eventually die or become irrelevant (if it isn't already), i generally try to avoid joining sites like that in the first place.

And if staff is competent you will probably not have to argue with them in the first place.

Bad policies/decision from what i have seen is mostly an issue on lower quality trackers that you don't want to use anyway.

Example of bad policy is requiring that people fill out a form or reach a certain user-class before they can start uploading to the site. I don't see myself ever uploading anything to a site like that.

If you have some idea for how to make an already good site better you can try making a suggestion (if they have a system for that). On RED there was for example a suggestion to incentivize seeding of torrents that has few seeders and eventually staff implemented the freeload system (not the solution suggested but still a good system).

You can also of course have conversation with staff when appropriate. From my experience GGn and RED has good staff that will resolve issues when needed.

And if there is some promising upcoming site that has policies you like you can join and become an uploader to help them out.

Admin · Sep 2, 2024

Honestly trying out other trackers has made me appreciate RED more

0. When you are looking for some type of music there you are very likely to actually find it and have it be seeded. They have more torrents than any other private tracker.

1. RED doesn't have any "Hit and run" rules. You will not get into trouble there from having computer issues preventing you from seeding for a while. You will not get banned because it took too long to move files to a new seeding location.

2. They do have an interview system where you can join the site directly instead of having to be recruited from some other site or being pushed into signing up for a bad seedbox service. It is currently a rather frustrating process for the people waiting in line for the interview (people often end up waiting for days) but at least the option is there. If you want to make this more convenient you can of course apply to join once you have reached the elite user class.

3. You get immune from inactivity pruning once you become a power user. You don't have to worry about getting into trouble (potentially getting fully banned) because you needed to focus on something else and say take 1 year break from torrenting.

4. They let you start uploading right away rather than requiring you to apply for that. This is valuable for people on say ratio watch since then they can dig themselves out of their whole by uploading instead of having to rent a seedbox.

5. Their request feature is actually effective since they have a working economy. You will not see your request end up unfulfilled despite bounty over 1TiB.

6. A lot of other torrent sites can be joined from ranking up on the site. RED is one of the best sites in that regard and avoiding RED is currently often impractical for users looking to join some other sites.

7. You are incentivized to seed poorly seeded torrents thanks to their freeload events. This is better than most/all systems i have seen on other trackers.

8. They have a pretty good search engine for finding music you are looking for.

Of course there is still room for improvement and the site will very likely get better over time at least in terms of the library. There was actually a sharp increase in the number of torrents uploaded after 2023:

https://torrents.neocities.org/

I do remember being annoyed at some stuff at RED but that annoyance kinda disappeared when i started trying out other private tracker sites. There are of course things i would do a bit differently if i was in charge but that will be the case for every private tracker.

Admin · Sep 3, 2024

People sometimes grind for years only to get massively disappointed
You might think that some tracker is going to be great for you only to later end up very disappointed.

In this case it's a bit stupid since "breaking bad" is TV so it's outside the scope of what PTP is covering.

Longjumping-Kick-988 wrote:

Wasted 2.5 years getting into PTP.. The disappointment is immeasurable
When I first set my sights on getting into PTP, I knew it wouldn’t be an easy road. After all, the reputation of PTP as the pinnacle of private trackers made it a distant dream for most. But I wasn’t just “most.” I was determined, and this is the story of how I grinded for two and a half long years, pouring my heart and soul into RED to finally make that dream a reality. Little did I know that the dream I was chasing would end in such profound disappointment.

The Beginning: Joining RED
My journey began on RED, the renowned tracker where many start but few truly succeed. Joining RED was exhilarating, but I quickly realized that it was just the beginning. I knew that to even be considered for PTP, I’d need to prove myself in ways that would push me to my limits.

The Early Days: Learning the Ropes
Starting on RED was like entering a new world. The community was vast, and the rules were intricate. I spent hours reading through the wiki, studying the seeding strategies, and learning about how to maintain a good ratio. My nights were consumed by this new obsession, as I meticulously planned how I would approach the grind.

The First Grind: Building the Ratio
The first major hurdle was building a solid ratio. On RED, ratio is king, and I wasn’t about to be dethroned. I invested in seedboxes, optimized my internet connection, and scoured the tracker for the most obscure torrents that I knew would give me a good seeding advantage. It wasn’t easy. The hours were long, and the competition was fierce. I remember the anxiety of checking my uploads every hour, hoping to see that little green arrow indicating a successful seed.
But this was just the beginning.

Leveling Up: Contribution and Community Engagement
Ratio wasn’t the only thing that mattered. To stand out on RED, I needed to become an active part of the community. I started uploading my own torrents, curating content that I knew would be valuable to the user base. Each upload was a gamble, with the potential to either boost my standing or set me back weeks.

I began participating in the forums, offering advice where I could, and engaging in discussions. The goal was to become a recognized name within the community—a name that people associated with quality contributions. Every comment, every thread, and every upload was part of my strategy to elevate myself closer to that PTP invite.

The Grind Intensifies: Hitting Milestones
As the months turned into years, the grind became a way of life. I wasn’t just participating in RED; I was living it. My daily routine revolved around torrenting. I woke up to check my seeds, spent my breaks at work planning my next uploads, and my evenings fine-tuning my seeding strategies.

I hit milestone after milestone. First, reaching power user status. Then, elite user. But I knew that these titles were just stepping stones. My ultimate goal was in sight, but I couldn’t afford to let up.

The Sweat and the Sacrifice
The grind was intense. There were times when I questioned whether it was worth it. The countless nights spent babysitting torrents, the hours sacrificed, and the endless cycle of upload, seed, repeat—it all took a toll. My social life dwindled, and there were moments when I felt like giving up. But every time I considered it, I remembered why I started: to get into PTP.

The sweat was real, both metaphorically and literally. I sweated through technical issues, ratio drops, and the constant fear of missing a crucial upload window. But each challenge only fueled my determination.

The Final Stretch: The Golden Opportunity
After two and a half years of grinding, I finally saw a glimmer of hope. I had become a well-known figure on RED, with a reputation for quality contributions and a solid ratio to back it up. But even then, I knew that securing a PTP invite wouldn’t be easy. I needed to find the right opportunity.

That opportunity came when I was approached by a respected member of the community who recognized my efforts. They offered to put in a good word for me, something that I had worked so hard to earn. Even then, I knew it wasn’t guaranteed. But I had done everything in my power to get this far, and I wasn’t about to let it slip away.

The Payoff: Joining PTP
The day I received my PTP invite was surreal. After two and a half years of grinding, I had finally achieved my goal. It felt like everything I had worked for had come to fruition. The sweat, the sacrifices, and the endless grind had all been worth it.
Or so I thought.

The Crushing Disappointment
After all the blood, sweat, and tears I poured into this grind, I was finally on PTP, the tracker I had idolized for years. I expected a treasure trove of the best content, a nirvana for cinephiles and TV lovers alike. But when I searched for one of my all-time favorite shows, Breaking Bad, I was stunned. Breaking Bad—one of the most critically acclaimed series of all time—was nowhere to be found.
I couldn’t believe it. All those years of grinding, all those nights spent perfecting my ratio, all the sacrifices I made, and for what? To join a tracker that doesn’t even have Breaking Bad?

I felt betrayed. This was supposed to be the holy grail of private trackers, the pinnacle of my torrenting career, and yet it was missing something so fundamental. It felt like the rug had been pulled out from under me. All the grind, all the sweat, all the effort—it was for naught. The dream I had chased for two and a half years turned out to be nothing more than an illusion.
Conclusion: Was It Worth It?

Looking back on my journey from RED to PTP, it’s hard not to feel disillusioned. The grind was intense, and the challenges were many, but the ultimate payoff didn’t live up to the hype. The disappointment of realizing that PTP wasn’t the nirvana I had imagined still stings. If I had known then what I know now, I might have reconsidered the path I took.

To anyone else out there on the same journey, I say this: Be careful what you wish for. The grind might get you to where you want to go, but sometimes, the destination isn’t what you dreamed it would be. Keep grinding, but make sure it’s truly worth the sweat and sacrifice. And maybe, just maybe, reconsider whether the chase for PTP is really worth it—especially if it’s missing Breaking Bad.

Admin · Sep 14, 2024

Peer Scraping Incident on Orpheus
This illustrates the value in avoiding the lower tier trackers. I remember people trying to convince me to join that site and i of course refused since it's very much inferior to RED.

Well at least they actually notified the users rather than trying to sweep it under the rug hoping that their users are not going to find out anything.

Full message (copied form Orpheus):

With great displeasure we need to inform you that a malicious actor has successfully carried out a massive peer scraping attack on our tracker on Thursday.

The unknown actor has downloaded the majority of our torrent files and corresponding peer lists.
This means the malicious third party is now in possession of most of our users' torrent client information (seeding IP, client port, torrents seeded).

As far as we can observe their immediate goal is downloading a huge part of our library, but we do not know if they have further plans with the collected data.

As a mitigation, we recommend that users change their torrent client ports, or seeding IP (for example users seeding from behind a VPN) if possible to thwart whatever (further) intentions the attacker has.

We detected the attack about six hours after the peer scraping had been carried out. Unfortunately there is nothing we can do about this incident at this point, other than preventing the malicious user's further access to our site and tracker.

This attack should have been prevented by code we have in place, but for a yet unknown reason was not. Since the moment we noticed the incident we have devised, and in parts already implemented, further protection mechanisms. However, this whole incident is most dissatisfying for us, as we recognize the sensitive nature of the data. We strive to do better.

Admin · Sep 20, 2024

Redditor lost 50$ trying to buy an account
He ended up just getting ghosted which is actually the best case scenario, he was lucky it didn't end even worse.

Low IQ person wrote:

Never trust Godfather of TorrentInv...
NEVER trust the owner (Godfather) of torrentinv... Recently I've bought an account from him, I sent the money and he simply didn't sent me the account details. He is a scammer, and it is an advice, don't buy anything from him or u will lose your money.

Proof: https://ibb.co/cDpFnDb https://ibb.co/WPT8XrF

GenerousTurtle wrote:

Dumbass™. Even if you meet the purest and most honest seller you only buying temporary access to tracker. Eventually they are banned along with the whole tree.

Unroasted3079 wrote:

few years ago i was also interested in buying , but after reading few posts,i came to know that they will ban me the moment they know i have purchased the account

then i dropped the idea of purchasing, and i started to leveling up myself ,now im almost reached the top tier ( except ptp ,btn )
even if he sended you account details ,you will most likely to get banned in few months

vintologi24 wrote:

You are lucky you got ghosted.

They could have gotten you into trouble with loads of private trackers by doxxing you as someone trying to buy an account. They could also have tried extorting you for even more money.

Or you would have actually gotten an account only to get cabal banned later down the line, even TL would have banned you.

What did you expect?

Euphoric-Animator-97 wrote:

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Don’t. Buy. Invites.

It’s not that hard a rule to follow.

Admin · Oct 2, 2024

nyaa vs animebytes
nyaa has no business being as good as it is being a public tracker.

But how does it stack up to animebytes?

Here animebytes offers a 982.17 GiB download for naruto (the original, not shippuden) if you want that in the full bluray quality (remux).

Wiith nyaa you cannot get a remux, you can download the bluray IOSs which isn't really practical for actually watching anime (you could maybe try remuxing yourself but that's not very convenient).

But you can still watch naruto, just in lower quality (or by remuxing 30 bluray ISOs).

Admin · Oct 5, 2024

The mentality that gets people banned
Some people have the mentality "i only have to follow rules when staff see what i am doing" but people like that tend to slip up and get caught eventually.

While he did not share the name of his account that's very easy for staff to deduce from screenshot provided.

He basically asked me to violate RED rules because he didn't want to do the interview required to get an account there.

I am not sure if i should share the screenshot he provided here but it definitely provided enough details for staff to BHD to figure out who he is in the case they get hold of it (i will provide it to them if asked of course but i cannot easily contact them without a BHD account).

Example: he showed the account name of one of his followers, staff can easily check said users and quickly find the account.

I don't know if the profile screenshot provided (on another tracker) is covered by that rule.