PS5 vs PC vs XBOX SX

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Performance
The GPU:s in the consoles will both have RDNA2 architecture with some possible tweaks. RDNA2 will perform about 25% better per tereflops than RDNA1 so therefore

PS5 GPU: equivalent to 2070
XSX GPU: equivalent to 2070 super

This is about half of what PC will offer when consoles launch and it's clear their weak GPU:s will hold the system back, it will still be good performance for the price but PC gaming will still be significantly better given a big budget (2500$)

XBOX series x will also have faster CPU. What makes it even worse is that PS5 will not even run at constant speeds which will make it more difficult to develop for the console.

You can currently build a PC slightly better than both upcoming consoles for about 1400$
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ncz37T

Good PC
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/T7bJcq

 

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Exclusives
Microsoft has already started to realize their 'exclusives' on PC (windows 10) so their consoles are kinda pointless. Sony still have many highly rated exclusives on their platforms but they have also started to release on PC

PC can also play a lot of old titles and rom hacks via emulation and so while you might miss out on some sony and nintendo exclusives for now you got plenty of older high quality games to play.

The advantage with exclusives to PS5 is that they will be made to take full advantage of the next-gen system while most multiplatform titles will be made to run on weaker hardware too which will result in compromises. Sony might still decide to realize on PC later once the typical gaming computer can match the PS5 and they have already sold a lot of consoles via their exclusive games.

 

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Paying to play online
Since the PS4 launch console gamers had to put up with paying to use their own internet while PC players can enjoy free online. Soon microsoft will start offering free online while sony continue to demand that people pay in order to play multiplayer online.

You do get games to play when you pay for PS+ but all these games will be locked if you stop paying. Sony can probably get away with this becuase people want to get their hands on their exclusives, they also get away with inferior hardware (such as PS4 pro vs xbox one x).

If you just get PlayStation for single player exclusives then you can ditch PS+ and thus save maybe 300$, you can spend that on your gaming PC instead.

 

[Creamer]

the nintendo switch is fun tho

 

[Admin]

the nintendo switch is fun tho

Even if the game would be good it's ruined by low resolution and framerate, it's better to play it later via emulation.

 

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SSD storage
PS5 will have a storage solution that offer better performance but you will only get 825GB of SSD storage there (compared to 1000GB via XSX) .

Sony has claimed their faster SSD will make a massive difference but this is questionable

 

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A PC can be used for other tasks besides gaming
These days gaming GPUs can also be used for other tasks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CUDA

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenCL

https://www.quora.com/What-is-currently-the-best-GPU-for-deep-learning

A system that is good for gaming will also be good for productivity (video editing, deep learning, cryptocurrency mining, etc).

 

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Overclocking
These days it's very easy to raise the performance of your PC by changing a few settings. Often overclocking is very easy but you just need to make sure your system is still is stable.

This should allow you to beat the XBOX series X with a RTX 2070 super, while (probably) behind at stock frequencies but once you have tweaked it it should instead be faster.

https://babeltechreviews.com/the-rt...-1080-ti-overclocking-showdown-with-40-games/

 

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PC hardware will become better soon
Nvidia will launch their RTX3*** cards (such as RTX 3080) and AMD will release their new GPUs (zen 3).

Even then the new consoles will probably be cheaper to buy for the same performance due to sony and microsoft selling at loss but then they are expecting to make their money back such as selling overprized games, they lock you to their ecosystem.

 

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Mouse and keyboard support
With PC you can play with any controller you like pretty much and this includes mouse and keyboard that is way better than anything on consoles.

This (while inferiour to native mouse and keyboard) will give xim players an unfair advantage

https://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=71374.0

 

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120fps+
With PC you can game at far higher refresh rates. Of course PS5 will be powerful enough to do gaming in 1440p165 but of course they will not bother to support that. Instead you will only get a few titles you can run at 120fps because it's uncommon among TV:s these days.

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/...firmed-120fps-games-for-ps5-and-xbox-series-x

 

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The xbox strategy
Instead of trying to sell their consoles with exclusives they try to offer affordable high-end gaming, free online play and cheaper than PC for the same performance, offer gamepass so people can play a lot of games for a small amount of money.

Data so far indicate that people strongly prefer the playstation approach where you get high quality exclusive games available if you buy into the platform and then you actually need to pay for the titles, you cannot just play them for free for a low monthly sum. People are excited to see a new generation with significant improvements in terms of what you can play.

 

[Creamer]

Even if the game would be good it's ruined by low resolution and framerate, it's better to play it later via emulation.

it has great resolution actualy

 

[Admin]

it has great resolution actualy

900p isn't great resolution, it's even worse in portable mode (720p).

Framerate is dogshit

https://youtu.be/gpqaTdflkNU?t=440

This illustrates how hardware matters, if switch had better hardware it could have ran zelda att 1080p60 with the same graphics.

Sometimes it's not even possible to scale back a game for weaker hardware, in the case of crysis for switch they removed one level becuase the switch couldn't handle it, in other cases the game cannot be ported at all.

 

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How much does the average consumer care about graphics?
One myth is that ordinary people just want to play fun games and doesn't care about how the game looks, this is nonsense, people upgraded to PS4 before PS4 had much in terms of great games.

When people look at footage from a game they might buy the graphics will be very noticeable.

There are good reasons why sony makes sure their first party titles reach 1080p resolution on PS4, the xbox one failed to do that in a lot of games and this really did hurt the xbox brand. Microsoft did learn from that mistake and they now put effort into making sure "games look and run the best on xbox" (except for the fact that PC is better).

Also it's still the case that the base xbox one sucks while the base PS4 at least reaches 1080p with good graphics in addition to offering a lot of exclusive titles people actually want.

you are also ovelooking the low price and portability. game look very good on the switch.

I suppose it's ok for a portable device but portable gaming is kinda stupid, you end up having to carry 2 devices (both phone and switch) and the battery only lasts a few hours.

 

[Creamer]

How much does the average consumer care about graphics?
One myth is that ordinary people just want to play fun games and doesn't care about how the game looks, this is nonsense, people upgraded to PS4 before PS4 had much in terms of great games.

When people look at footage from a game they might buy the graphics will be very noticeable.

There are good reasons why sony makes sure their first party titles reach 1080p resolution on PS4, the xbox one failed to do that in a lot of games and this really did hurt the xbox brand. Microsoft did learn from that mistake and they now put effort into making sure "games look and run the best on xbox" (except for the fact that PC is better).

Also it's still the case that the base xbox one sucks while the base PS4 at least reaches 1080p with good graphics in addition to offering a lot of exclusive titles people actually want.



I suppose it's ok for a portable device but portable gaming is kinda stupid, you end up having to carry 2 devices (both phone and switch) and the battery only lasts a few hours.

it lasts like 7 hours, depends on the game really.
besides It comfortable keeping game separate from the PC.
I have : pokemon shield, mk11, fit ring(to do fitness) and a racing game, also hollow knight