The incel question
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I got deplatformed from the service that hosted my old forum, not sure if that text can even be recovered. I wrote that due to my frustration interacting with several incel types.
This was before i discovered the "genetic clowns" concept.
What i concluded was that females generally do the right thing in eliminating these individuals from the gene pool. I have never supported forced sterilizations of males or the government direcly killing individuals only due to them being incel.
This was before i discovered the "genetic clowns" concept.
What i concluded was that females generally do the right thing in eliminating these individuals from the gene pool. I have never supported forced sterilizations of males or the government direcly killing individuals only due to them being incel.
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It would be like if Nestle had a monopoly on water, and people were encouraged to funnel money to Nestle instead of breaking up the monopoly. It is increasingly possible to separate sex from reproduction, so I'm trying to avoid conjecture about what encourages genetic fitness or not (something that actually is hard to argue about on any side)
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Eliminating both the inceldom and femceldom problems
Chicks don't consider NEETs relationship material in the long term, and they don't particularly want a relationship with a turbomanlet, extremely ugly dude, or other functionally or aesthetically unsuitable man. Yet, such men are a certain % of the male population, leaving some women without a mate that consider acceptable, leading them to be femcel and those men incel. What to do about this? Some possibilities:
Chicks don't consider NEETs relationship material in the long term, and they don't particularly want a relationship with a turbomanlet, extremely ugly dude, or other functionally or aesthetically unsuitable man. Yet, such men are a certain % of the male population, leaving some women without a mate that consider acceptable, leading them to be femcel and those men incel. What to do about this? Some possibilities:
- Simply cull all the femcels and incels.
- Force femcels to marry NEETs, turbomanlets, ugly men, etc. E.g., tell them, "You gotta get married or we're gonna impose such-and-such penalty" (or have the dad be the one who's being coerced to marry off his daughter). Or just sell unmarried chicks at an auction where unmarried men would be eligible bidders. In the case of NEET men, these women and their kids would presumably have to be supported by the state, by charity, or by family, etc.
- Allow polygyny. Dudes who can afford multiple wives can marry them, and NEET men and so on will simply do without, and possibly be culled since they don't really have much purpose in existing.
- Use selective breeding or genetic engineering to create some Chads or other men who meet females' minimum requirements. Enough would need to be created to make up for all the neet men and so on who don't meet those requirements. Then those submarginal men can be culled.
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Most guys on incel forums are youngcels or neetcels; they're not actually bad-looking. Some of them could even get laid if they weren't holding out for a relationship instead of just sex with some slut.
I don't think chicks really have high standards about how much money their guy makes, though; they just want him to not be totally stagnant, unemployed or working as a cashier at Burger World forever.
I don't think chicks really have high standards about how much money their guy makes, though; they just want him to not be totally stagnant, unemployed or working as a cashier at Burger World forever.
Incel neets have time to visit and post on these forums, they are not reprasentative of incels as a whole. I have seen plenty of stories about people being rejected by all females here (sweden) despite having a job.
People visiting incel forums also tend to be more intelligent than the typical incel and of course also younger, oldcels are less likely to visit incel forums.
They are raising their standards every year and males improving themselves would just result in them raising their standards even faster.
People visiting incel forums also tend to be more intelligent than the typical incel and of course also younger, oldcels are less likely to visit incel forums.
They are raising their standards every year and males improving themselves would just result in them raising their standards even faster.
It will depend on what type of neet you are, if you got diagnosed with a mental conditions such as autism you will be able to collect 1300$ per month in addition to be able to join organisations for free, they will also pay for a gym membership if you need that, free travel by public transportation.
To get "socialbidrag" you cannot have too much assets and there will be a lot of hoops to jump through to get that, if you make any income you will lose 100% of what you made if you are an honest tax-payer.
If you have "activitetsersättning" and try to work they might conclude you are indeed capable of working and you might lose your welfare, thus the best strategy is not to work at all and not try to get any job.
To get "socialbidrag" you cannot have too much assets and there will be a lot of hoops to jump through to get that, if you make any income you will lose 100% of what you made if you are an honest tax-payer.
If you have "activitetsersättning" and try to work they might conclude you are indeed capable of working and you might lose your welfare, thus the best strategy is not to work at all and not try to get any job.
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This is not the case for me, i'm very ugly and undesirable which is why i'm debating whether or not to visit Thailand or Vegas to lose my virginity like @leftyincel did (if i'm either desperate or can't looksmax and get laid within a certain period of time).
Plus, I don't think like the status quo. I have political views and hobbies that your average teen thot would hate. It's over in 2019+.
Plus, I don't think like the status quo. I have political views and hobbies that your average teen thot would hate. It's over in 2019+.
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It takes care of anger fairly well. Elko is the best if you wanna do it legally. Only like $400, only $200 of which goes to the woman. In cities where it's illegal I think like $600 goes to the woman (haven't done it illegally though) and in other legal-brothel Nevada counties, like $400-2000 goes to the woman.
So all in all Elko Nevada is the best legal place imo. You aren't forking over that much money (relatively) and you are safe from STDs, arrest, etc. It's also a very easy process. The only hard part is raising money for travel if you don't live in Nevada.
So all in all Elko Nevada is the best legal place imo. You aren't forking over that much money (relatively) and you are safe from STDs, arrest, etc. It's also a very easy process. The only hard part is raising money for travel if you don't live in Nevada.
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One redeeming quality with incels active online is their opposition to psychiatry
https://incels.net/threads/mental-health.3096/
https://incels.wiki/w/Psychiatry
But incels you see on these forums are not representative, low IQ incels are less likely to realize how bad their situation is due to genetic factors and think they are just unlucky or "need to be confident".
Medium IQ incel tend to stick with the MGTOW cope deluding themselves into thinking they are the ones rejecting the girls (lol).
https://incels.net/threads/mental-health.3096/
https://incels.wiki/w/Psychiatry
But incels you see on these forums are not representative, low IQ incels are less likely to realize how bad their situation is due to genetic factors and think they are just unlucky or "need to be confident".
Medium IQ incel tend to stick with the MGTOW cope deluding themselves into thinking they are the ones rejecting the girls (lol).
When writing the vintologi bible i included the following:
Even if it turns out not to be beneficial for society or the individuals subjected to it in Community Treatment Order setting forced HRT in a more controlling setting may still provide value. Males can be reduced to property and then given HRT by the ones owning them so they will become useful when it comes to sexual slavery. There are a lot of fun things you can do to a male reduced to property
• ballbusting (squeezing, punches, kicks, hitting with tool, etc).
• needles through his genitals or other body parts.
• outright castration without any anesthetic,
• throwing/blowing darts at him.
• spanking with hands or tools.
• estradiol valerate injections or other medications (bicalutamide, oral estradiol, etc).
• forced Facial Feminiztion Surgery,
• Sexual Reassignment Surgery (can be experimental or without anesthetic).
• putting him in a small cage.
• deepthroating him so hard he throws up, then punish him for not controlling himself.
I first though that maybe this is too extreme of a punishment but then i remembered reading the following and decided to keep it in version 23 of the vintologi bible
http://archive.vn/wip/7t4tS
https://incels.co/threads/angry-incel-punches-pregnant-stacy-in-stomach.78899/
Sure you could still argue that it's bad optics to include details about how to punish highly problematic people and deter people from doing really bad and disgusting behaviour but i decided there wasn't much value in that.
Even if it turns out not to be beneficial for society or the individuals subjected to it in Community Treatment Order setting forced HRT in a more controlling setting may still provide value. Males can be reduced to property and then given HRT by the ones owning them so they will become useful when it comes to sexual slavery. There are a lot of fun things you can do to a male reduced to property
• ballbusting (squeezing, punches, kicks, hitting with tool, etc).
• needles through his genitals or other body parts.
• outright castration without any anesthetic,
• throwing/blowing darts at him.
• spanking with hands or tools.
• estradiol valerate injections or other medications (bicalutamide, oral estradiol, etc).
• forced Facial Feminiztion Surgery,
• Sexual Reassignment Surgery (can be experimental or without anesthetic).
• putting him in a small cage.
• deepthroating him so hard he throws up, then punish him for not controlling himself.
I first though that maybe this is too extreme of a punishment but then i remembered reading the following and decided to keep it in version 23 of the vintologi bible
http://archive.vn/wip/7t4tS
https://incels.co/threads/angry-incel-punches-pregnant-stacy-in-stomach.78899/
Sure you could still argue that it's bad optics to include details about how to punish highly problematic people and deter people from doing really bad and disgusting behaviour but i decided there wasn't much value in that.
I suspect that a lot of incels suffer from gender dysphoria and hate females out of jealousy, this however doesn't excuse their horrible behaviour.
Many former incels/nazis become far better people after going trans
https://vintologi.com/posts/3247
This is however merely a collection of anecdotes and we would need to do a Randomized Controlled Trial (involuntary treatment with Hormone replacement Therapy) to test if forced transitions would be beneficial for them of society as a whole.
It can be argued that HRT Community Treatment Orders is too mild of a punishment for a lot of incels which is one of the reason why i also includes the more severe punishment of being reduced to a property of male (no rights) in version 23 of the vintologi bible.
Many former incels/nazis become far better people after going trans
https://vintologi.com/posts/3247
This is however merely a collection of anecdotes and we would need to do a Randomized Controlled Trial (involuntary treatment with Hormone replacement Therapy) to test if forced transitions would be beneficial for them of society as a whole.
It can be argued that HRT Community Treatment Orders is too mild of a punishment for a lot of incels which is one of the reason why i also includes the more severe punishment of being reduced to a property of male (no rights) in version 23 of the vintologi bible.