After doing some thinking it became clear that my initial thinking and approach with transmaxxing was the correct one in the sense that i recommended it to those people who had the most problems living as males. Those are the people transitioning should be primarily for in my eyes.
Trans acceptance seems to be on a decline
I remember Ksenia earlier stating that trans rights were trending in a positive direction and when i read that years ago that made sense to me. Now however it seems like things are not changing for the better for trans people anymore.
And what i have noticed is that when trans activists tries to fight back now they just get ignored. Basically nobody is afraid of them now and they are they are now being discarded by the feminists.
Don't expect to be able to compete and win in women's sports as a trans female, TERFs and conservatives will try to ban that even if you don't have any advantage to begin with.
You will be at a disadvantage trying to gain power as a trans females due to a very big portion of the population not trusting you or being outright hostile against you. Caitlyn Jenner was stupid enough to try to run as a republican with predictable outcome (she got destroyed in their primary).
https://ballotpedia.org/Caitlyn_Jenner
She would have had a much greater chance of winning if she had stayed male.
Having children as a trans female is still too impractical
While you can bank sperm i am not aware of anyone who has actually had any child as a trans female after going that.
Some people have had children by stopping HRT but most trans females are very much unwilling to do so. It can take a long time after you stop before you actually make your wife pregnant.
https://www.reddit.com/r/transmaxxing/comments/1bx81zk/study_9_of_9_trans_females_got_their_fertility/
I am aware that there are people who do not want children but those people will generally not be the ones raising the upcoming generation.
And if you don't plan on having children you trying to become super-successful as a male is kinda pointless to begin with. One big reason for working hard as a male is to leave things for your children to inherit.
Many current males are unlikely to ever reproduce or be particularly successful as males
While it can be hard to say for sure a lot of males today do not really have a future to begin with. Those people have little to lose from transitioning since they already do not have much in terms of status and they are already generally disliked.
WoodenEquivalent5176 wrote:
You do have some twisted views of things, you were never gaining any “power” by being trans, maybe get hired for diversity, maybe gain power in lefty circles, but that’s it, that’s all it ever was. If you’re doing this for reasons other then sex or gender dysphoria, I think you’re foolish to say the least. You’re now starting to see the downsides of being trans and it isn’t as appealing to you. This part of your ideology was always kinda flawed imo. I still like what you’re doing, but I think what you’re seeing is more or less reality. Imo I’ve lost more social status by going trans, but that was never my goal. If your goals are power and social status the only thing that truly gives you that is money and being trans isn’t gonna help with that at all, unless you marry a rich man for his money but that’s unlikely to say the least. In theory in a lefty state you could have advantages running for office as a trans woman, but in reality in most liberal places it will be a neutral, not in your favor or against while in conservative places you’ll never be elected. Money, power and social status are meaningless anyway find better goals.
vintologi24 wrote:
I do think that some males will get an increase in status from transitioning. It can at least make them more sexually appealing.
But in general transitioning is probably detrimental for your social status even in western countries.
NoWaitingToWonder wrote:
I never would have transitioned had I been a successful male. I do think I gained status but that’s because I was a miserable male with no prospects at all. If I put as much effort and money into being a male as I have being female, I would definitely be higher status and wealthier. But, that wasn’t why I transitioned. I did it for sexual reasons and because of intense body dysphoria.
Part of what appeals to me in transmaxxing is that it is a way for us who are somewhat unmotivated and doomed to be worthless to society to find a way to be valued and to find intimacy. If I could have done that as a male, if my childhood had not been horrible and taught me to hate myself, then I would t have transitioned. But, I found myself through estrogen, surgery, transition, and men’s attention and women’s acceptance.
I ultimately think that looking for power and wealth isn’t why anyone would transmaxx. To me, it is about hacking the system to escape the male role. It was a role I can’t fill, and I’m so glad I can be a loving, attractive, and sweet woman instead of a bitter and hopeless man. In my case I probably was gay, but my childhood trauma makes me hate being gay and gay culture. Now, my life is guilt-free and though it has tons of special tranny problems, it is better than ever.
Trans acceptance seems to be on a decline
I remember Ksenia earlier stating that trans rights were trending in a positive direction and when i read that years ago that made sense to me. Now however it seems like things are not changing for the better for trans people anymore.
And what i have noticed is that when trans activists tries to fight back now they just get ignored. Basically nobody is afraid of them now and they are they are now being discarded by the feminists.
Don't expect to be able to compete and win in women's sports as a trans female, TERFs and conservatives will try to ban that even if you don't have any advantage to begin with.
You will be at a disadvantage trying to gain power as a trans females due to a very big portion of the population not trusting you or being outright hostile against you. Caitlyn Jenner was stupid enough to try to run as a republican with predictable outcome (she got destroyed in their primary).
https://ballotpedia.org/Caitlyn_Jenner
She would have had a much greater chance of winning if she had stayed male.
Having children as a trans female is still too impractical
While you can bank sperm i am not aware of anyone who has actually had any child as a trans female after going that.
Some people have had children by stopping HRT but most trans females are very much unwilling to do so. It can take a long time after you stop before you actually make your wife pregnant.
https://www.reddit.com/r/transmaxxing/comments/1bx81zk/study_9_of_9_trans_females_got_their_fertility/
I am aware that there are people who do not want children but those people will generally not be the ones raising the upcoming generation.
And if you don't plan on having children you trying to become super-successful as a male is kinda pointless to begin with. One big reason for working hard as a male is to leave things for your children to inherit.
Many current males are unlikely to ever reproduce or be particularly successful as males
While it can be hard to say for sure a lot of males today do not really have a future to begin with. Those people have little to lose from transitioning since they already do not have much in terms of status and they are already generally disliked.
WoodenEquivalent5176 wrote:
You do have some twisted views of things, you were never gaining any “power” by being trans, maybe get hired for diversity, maybe gain power in lefty circles, but that’s it, that’s all it ever was. If you’re doing this for reasons other then sex or gender dysphoria, I think you’re foolish to say the least. You’re now starting to see the downsides of being trans and it isn’t as appealing to you. This part of your ideology was always kinda flawed imo. I still like what you’re doing, but I think what you’re seeing is more or less reality. Imo I’ve lost more social status by going trans, but that was never my goal. If your goals are power and social status the only thing that truly gives you that is money and being trans isn’t gonna help with that at all, unless you marry a rich man for his money but that’s unlikely to say the least. In theory in a lefty state you could have advantages running for office as a trans woman, but in reality in most liberal places it will be a neutral, not in your favor or against while in conservative places you’ll never be elected. Money, power and social status are meaningless anyway find better goals.
vintologi24 wrote:
I do think that some males will get an increase in status from transitioning. It can at least make them more sexually appealing.
But in general transitioning is probably detrimental for your social status even in western countries.
NoWaitingToWonder wrote:
I never would have transitioned had I been a successful male. I do think I gained status but that’s because I was a miserable male with no prospects at all. If I put as much effort and money into being a male as I have being female, I would definitely be higher status and wealthier. But, that wasn’t why I transitioned. I did it for sexual reasons and because of intense body dysphoria.
Part of what appeals to me in transmaxxing is that it is a way for us who are somewhat unmotivated and doomed to be worthless to society to find a way to be valued and to find intimacy. If I could have done that as a male, if my childhood had not been horrible and taught me to hate myself, then I would t have transitioned. But, I found myself through estrogen, surgery, transition, and men’s attention and women’s acceptance.
I ultimately think that looking for power and wealth isn’t why anyone would transmaxx. To me, it is about hacking the system to escape the male role. It was a role I can’t fill, and I’m so glad I can be a loving, attractive, and sweet woman instead of a bitter and hopeless man. In my case I probably was gay, but my childhood trauma makes me hate being gay and gay culture. Now, my life is guilt-free and though it has tons of special tranny problems, it is better than ever.
