Fuck force feminization bullshit we are encourging the youth with we should be able to bring kids from mere sperm alone rather than require a vagina we should be able to mirror this with a artifical vagina unforantely the fucking cunts in power all of them want men to go gay rather than going masculine we are proggramed to be feminine jfl if you think their is no agenda i've been through brainwashing all my life i know how brainwashing they make you first second guess yourself and then they start isolating you we are already stage 2 next is stage 3 soon physical force will be applied fuck the dysgenic blood lines tbh fuck the elites they want dysgenics
Their should be no reproduction we should have ultimately be using machines to gene edit our kids
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We dont need genetic engineering if the goal just is to live on earth, we can live good lives with the current genepool. One of the advantages of increasing the average IQ is that it would result in democracy actually working and procuding good outcomes (instead of the current mixed bags).
But we do not need any genetic engineering for these improvements, selective breeding is enough, just female sexual selection may work.
We do however need to genetically improve humans so we can survive on other planets such as mars, that will be difficult but ut could be done.
But we do not need any genetic engineering for these improvements, selective breeding is enough, just female sexual selection may work.
We do however need to genetically improve humans so we can survive on other planets such as mars, that will be difficult but ut could be done.
''We dont need genetic engineering if the goal just is to live on earth, we can live good lives with the current genepool. One of the advantages of increasing the average IQ is that it would result in democracy actually working and procuding good outcomes (instead of the current mixed bags).''
Absolute teracope this is how you get incels and non gigachads the end goal of gene editing is to make prime brad pitt look incel it's main point is to help us reach for perfection.
But we do not need any genetic engineering for these improvements, selective breeding is enough, just female sexual selection may work.
Fuck that that leaves the chance for incels i just want gene editted gigachads i want prime brad pitt to look incel.
We do however need to genetically improve humans so we can survive on other planets such as mars, that will be difficult but ut could be done.
This we can agree with however i am for using this for everthing
That might actually be a good things since these "genetic clows" can provide entertaintment value for the rest of us
https://www.vintologi.com/threads/darwinian-vintologi.1/page-3#post-85
Males will become increasingly good looking over time without genetic engineering so again it's not actually needed.
We do however need to experiment with genetic engineering first on humans that are going to live on earth but what we can do with that will be rather limited or what we create will no longer be able to reproduce with a human.
https://www.vintologi.com/threads/darwinian-vintologi.1/page-3#post-85
Males will become increasingly good looking over time without genetic engineering so again it's not actually needed.
We do however need to experiment with genetic engineering first on humans that are going to live on earth but what we can do with that will be rather limited or what we create will no longer be able to reproduce with a human.
That might actually be a good things since these "genetic clows" can provide entertaintment value for the rest of us
Strongly disagree here genetic clowns will just end up harming human proggress i am not an elitist if you haven't guessed by know.
Males will become increasingly good looking over time without genetic engineering so again it's not actually needed.
Hmmmmm no natral selection would even the shit out where the majority suffer and maybe 10 percent who got lucky with the phenotype will reproduce i don't want that.
We do however need to experiment with genetic engineering first on humans that are going to live on earth but what we can do with that will be rather limited or what we create will no longer be able to reproduce with a human.
As long as the genetics stays fully human it should be fine we should not be messing with phenotypes to mix animal with human that will stir up some controversy and lets just say create abominations
Strongly disagree here genetic clowns will just end up harming human proggress i am not an elitist if you haven't guessed by know.
Males will become increasingly good looking over time without genetic engineering so again it's not actually needed.
Hmmmmm no natral selection would even the shit out where the majority suffer and maybe 10 percent who got lucky with the phenotype will reproduce i don't want that.
We do however need to experiment with genetic engineering first on humans that are going to live on earth but what we can do with that will be rather limited or what we create will no longer be able to reproduce with a human.
As long as the genetics stays fully human it should be fine we should not be messing with phenotypes to mix animal with human that will stir up some controversy and lets just say create abominations
How would they harm human progress?
Why not? what's your issue with elitism?
Fully human doesn't have a clear definition.
If you create a genetically engineer group of humans said group may end up drifting more and more genetically until they are no longer human.
I cann this process "GE-speciation" and it is just a faster and more efficient version of speciation in darwinian evolution.
https://www.vintologi.com/threads/darwinian-vintologi.1/page-2#post-39
Why not? what's your issue with elitism?
Fully human doesn't have a clear definition.
If you create a genetically engineer group of humans said group may end up drifting more and more genetically until they are no longer human.
I cann this process "GE-speciation" and it is just a faster and more efficient version of speciation in darwinian evolution.
https://www.vintologi.com/threads/darwinian-vintologi.1/page-2#post-39
How would they harm human progress?
Genetic weaklings damage the gene line and contribute to unnecessary suffering i mean i worship the vedic god brahma and his supreme view is all good and all loving would be want his children to be suffering constantly ? again you forget being reilgious means i have belifs that go with that religion for instance the imago dei while it is not fully hindu blends perfectly in with hinduism in a sole of fuffiling a status role mans purpose is to become priest kings in god do you mock or humilate priest kings or are they worthy of respect ? you tell me.
Why not? what's your issue with elitism?
Again goes back to the image thing.
Fully human doesn't have a clear definition.
It does a human is a bipedal ape a human mixed in with dog genes is no longer a bipedal ape their is subtle difference their.
If you create a genetically engineer group of humans said group may end up drifting more and more genetically until they are no longer human.
Not neccarily if your meaning it in the sole human context of just editing genes on the small level to defeat the human condition than no if you mean adding human genes to animals yes that becomes a problem i would suggest not doing it
Only if they reproduce.
They might suffer themselves but that can be outweighted by the utility value the provide as "genetic clowns".
What image?
That's still not a clear definition, where in our evolution exactly did we become human?
That wouldn't allow you to colinize other planets and even small edits over time can build up and lead to speciation.
They might suffer themselves but that can be outweighted by the utility value the provide as "genetic clowns".
What image?
That's still not a clear definition, where in our evolution exactly did we become human?
That wouldn't allow you to colinize other planets and even small edits over time can build up and lead to speciation.
Only if they reproduce.
How about getting it right the result right the first time why do we need unnecessary suffering when their another imager of god a priest king of god ?.
They might suffer themselves but that can be outweighted by the utility value the provide as "genetic clowns".
What value do they bring ? you tell me if anything it's less valuble energy not going towards more ecanomic ends.
What image?
The status given to mankind by god we can derive these from reason alone.
That's still not a clear definition, where in our evolution exactly did we become human?
A human is a bipedal hominid and a homo sapien us currently we become human roughly around 10 millenia ago.
That wouldn't allow you to colinize other planets and even small edits over time can build up and lead to speciation.
You could get gene editing that takes certain genes that can make us live without oxygen i don't know how we would do it but it's a possibility
I have already explained how they bring value to us as "genetic clown"
They offer value in the form of entertainment and we could also study them.
Not an elitist already told you this we could instead simulations which is perfectly possible and would not be immoral and we would not give these beings actual consciousness or free will.
''Horseshit.
Just another "objective morality" fraud.''
Bullshit we can come to god from pure reason alone diesm atleast you need to fuck with panenthiesm a little bit to the panenthiestic argument but we have pure reason alone to lead us to god.
Still not a clear definition
What is a human ? lets first ascribe terms what i think of humans are not our ape ancestors but at a specefic point like 10 millennia ago cave men times basically that is what i mean that is a human our ancestors were not fully human before that point we are still mammals but our ontological status is subtly different.
Impossible with the limited genetic engineeting you were suggesting.
Again science is a forever changing algorithm their are ways it could be done
You wasn't able go give a logical motivation for not being an elitist
No, not the god you used for trying to get to some objective morality.
If some "god" (whathever that would be) proclaim some morality that would still onlu be the subjective opinion of said god and since no such god influences us today there is no reason to take any theistic morality seriously.
You can still not do the impossible, we have seen over and over again how we hit hard limits and cannot progress much more.
The space launch system will not be much more powerful than the sarurn V rocket that took humanity to the moon.
Once we have managed creating something capable of surviving on mars without oxygen it will no longer be human.
No, not the god you used for trying to get to some objective morality.
If some "god" (whathever that would be) proclaim some morality that would still onlu be the subjective opinion of said god and since no such god influences us today there is no reason to take any theistic morality seriously.
You can still not do the impossible, we have seen over and over again how we hit hard limits and cannot progress much more.
The space launch system will not be much more powerful than the sarurn V rocket that took humanity to the moon.
Once we have managed creating something capable of surviving on mars without oxygen it will no longer be human.
''You wasn't able go give a logical motivation for not being an elitist''
Yes i did was it serves no purpose other than causing unnecessary suffering and it is too anti human and it goes agaist my reilgious values tbh that latter is a subjective choice however the first is just a fact why would you cause unnecessary suffering ? for no reason ? morals do exist you know and are objective my belif in gods has added ethical implications that's it however we all agree suffering is wrong.
No, not the god you used for trying to get to some objective morality.
No objective morality exists without god himself main difference i have additional subjective ethical concerns ethics ultiamtely is subjective by ethics i mean what 1 feels is right or wrong morals are rights 1 can derive from pure deductive reasoning when someone kills someone else we call that immoral cause it violates someones right to life. When a lion kills someone we say it's unethical cause we feel it's wrong.
If some "god" (whathever that would be) proclaim some morality that would still onlu be the subjective opinion of said god and since no such god influences us today there is no reason to take any theistic morality seriously.
It's ultiamtely subjective i never claimed that this is ultimately immoral i said it was unethical their is a difference.
You can still not do the impossible, we have seen over and over again how we hit hard limits and cannot progress much more.
The space launch system will not be much more powerful than the sarurn V rocket that took humanity to the moon.
Once we have managed creating something capable of surviving on mars without oxygen it will no longer be human.
First point this conception is not a impossible effect we would just have to fuck with genes a little bit A brain in a robots body i define a human 2 ways the circuits of the brain itself acting or emulating human like consciousness and being a bipedal hominind thats why even if their were aliens we could distinguish the 2 so after we got to this specific point our circuits of the brain the you that makes up you would still be human biologically your circuits would still be human this is not a inconceivable concept some scientists https://www.computerworld.com/article/3168840/darpa-we-re-on-cusp-of-merging-human-and-machine.html in it's alpha stages such a thought is possible it's not like im saying we are breaking the laws of physics here it's just altering biology itself.
Also i will define a human.
1 Bipedal hominind.
2 a self rewiring machine.
3 self learning machine.
First 2 give you human like things the main difference say their are aliens they would not be humans cause they would not be bipedal hominds unless off-course by some miraculous way they hit the same same evolution cycle as us but if not they aren't human we are and us merging with machines is still human cause it's still the same circuits here is a issue though how do you put a chemical machine inside a mechanical machine that is something the greater minds must come up with