Trump impeached

adolf512

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Sounds kinda pointless. If I were Pelosi, I would just find some excuse to delay bringing it to a vote, and just quietly sweep it under the rug like that.
Its too late for her to back down now.

The articles of impeachment are rather weak, its a bit surprising they were unable to pn anything mlre serious on him, this will not be recieved well among independents.

The obstruction of congress charge looks like bullshit, the Trump administration is just asserting executive privilege and taking it to court, the democrats are too impatient to wait for the court verdicts.
 

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Its too late for her to back down now.

The articles of impeachment are rather weak, its a bit surprising they were unable to pn anything mlre serious on him, this will not be recieved well among independents.

The obstruction of congress charge looks like bullshit, the Trump administration is just asserting executive privilege and taking it to court, the democrats are too impatient to wait for the court verdicts.
Given the demographic trends, I wonder how long Republicans can hold onto a majority in the Senate. Whenever Texas flips to the Democrats, that's going to be two Senators right there. Even Kentucky recently elected a Democratic governor, so if anything happened to McConnell, he'd be replaced with a Democrat.
 

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Given the demographic trends, I wonder how long Republicans can hold onto a majority in the Senate. Whenever Texas flips to the Democrats, that's going to be two Senators right there. Even Kentucky recently elected a Democratic governor, so if anything happened to McConnell, he'd be replaced with a Democrat.
The republicans will need to rig the next election (which they might do), 20 million purged voters might not be enough.

Trump is a good when it comes to conning low iq voters and this is why they are keeping him as president, the financially well of vote republican anyway and look the other ways when trump tells lie 14368.
 

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The republicans will need to rig the next election (which they might do), 20 million purged voters might not be enough.

Trump is a good when it comes to conning low iq voters and this is why they are keeping him as president, the financially well of vote republican anyway and look the other ways when trump tells lie 14368.
Those are the last five digits of my SSN.
 

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They are voting now

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/18/us/politics/impeachment-vote.html

Justin amash votes yes

two democrats voted no, one votes "pres".

one or two republicans may have pushed the wrong button during voting. they quickly changed to "nay".

Update: first article passed

Rigged senate trial next year.

update: second article passed, one more democrat voted no, otherwise the same.
 
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Nancy pelosi is doing an interesting move by refusing to sent the articles of impeachment to the senate, she demands a "fair trial" which she will never get, not even close.

 

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It does not seem like the democrats where serious when it comes to impeaching the president, it was obvious the republicans where going to rig the senate trial and thus even if they have a rock solid case to the senate republicans would still find a way acquit the president. In order to remove the president from office bipartisan support is needed (at least 20 republican senators).

Maybe if they had waited John Bolton would have been willing to testify under oath in the house and they would have a direct witness for a quid pro quo. The republicans in the senate realized Trump was guilty so the didn't want any more witnesses, not even Joe/Hunter Biden.

But hardly any republicans are willing to turn against the president and thus the goal should be to win over the public, the democrats failed with that too,

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

Maybe the democrats think they can always try to win 2024 but by then the republicans will have rigged the system so hard in their favor they will stay in power and the united states will become a full blown dictatorship, there might not even be any more election if the republicans manage to grab even more power.
 
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