What are your thoughts of Bohmian mechanics.

[reptiles]

It kinda of destroys the aristotlian idea of potential to actual as in the bohmian idea their is no potential it is purely determined by something prior.I have found some way to reconcile this.

1 assume b theory or a theory is true.
2 assume superposition is all predetermined by prior mechanistic things.
3 We still have things going from a potential to actual however this time the system is purely 100% deterministic.
C1 we still have a begging point with a unactualized actualizer to argue other wise is incoherent as to do so is to advocate for infinite regression which can mathmathically make sense but real life it cannot

 

[Admin]

It kinda of destroys the aristotlian idea of potential to actual

You dont need bohmian mechanics for that.

The penrose interpretation also works.

1 assume b theory or a theory is true.

If B theory if time were true we would not experience the flow in time, it would invalidate free will and your conscious experience couldn't be tied to quantum indeterminism.

It would allow you to reincarte into the past or having a conscious experience in more than one brain, you would also experience your body changing all the time since you could jusg instatly reincarnate into a future that already exist.

Particles as you think of them dont actually exists, all there is is fields and what you think of as particles are excitations of these fields, this is how quantum field theory works which has passed every single experimental test done so far.

 

[reptiles]

You dont need bohmian mechanics for that.

The penrose interpretation also works.

If B theory if time were true we would not experience the flow in time, it would invalidate free will and your conscious experience couldn't be tied to quantum indeterminism.

It would allow you to reincarte into the past or having a conscious experience in more than one brain, you would also experience your body changing all the time since you could jusg instatly reincarnate into a future that already exist.

Particles as you think of them dont actually exists, all there is is fields and what you think of as particles are excitations of these fields, this is how quantum field theory works which has passed every single experimental test done so far.

The penrose interpretation also works.

So does the bohmian tbh i am moving more towards this view more and more.

''If B theory if time were true we would not experience the flow in time, it would invalidate free will and your conscious experience couldn't be tied to quantum indeterminism.''

Their is the evolving block model that i ascribe to the idea is the past is in a forever tensed state the past and future equally exist but are tenseless and are changing constantly so you have a experiance of change of time this allows for free will and quantum indeterminism

''It would allow you to reincarte into the past or having a conscious experience in more than one brain, you would also experience your body changing all the time since you could jusg instatly reincarnate into a future that already exist.''

Yes were all immortal i mean that kind of fits my view it's not reincarnation cause your still same incarnation the forever changing future is still you.


''Particles as you think of them dont actually exists, all there is is fields and what you think of as particles are excitations of these fields, this is how quantum field theory works which has passed every single experimental test done so far.''

Particles as you think of them dont actually exists, all there is is fields and what you think of as particles are excitations of these fields, this is how quantum field theory works which has passed every single experimental test done so far.


Doesn't invalidate the b theory of time itself your right nothing exists in the sense we think of them it's either waves or particles vibrating i can't even conceive of it but i can some what picture it that being said i do think human interaction has influnce on quantum system cause everthing within a quantum system can affect it would make no sense a human which has quantum attributes not to affect the the wave field mainly cause human beings are also quantum beings that's just a fact its not really observation rather the interaction between us and the field itself that influences the consequence

 

[Admin]

Their is the evolving block model that i ascribe to the idea is the past is in a forever tensed state the past and future equally exist but are tenseless and are changing constantly so you have a experiance of change of time this allows for free will and quantum indeterminism

The evolving block model is a-theory of time i think.

Yes were all immortal i mean that kind of fits my view it's not reincarnation cause your still same incarnation the forever changing future is still you.

"reincarnation" is a bad word but i find myself using it anyway.

Maybe i should call the process in which your conscious experience continue after the death of your current body "viscineration" which is a word i made up.

Doesn't invalidate the b theory of time itself your right nothing exists in the sense we think of them it's either waves or particles vibrating i can't even conceive of it but i can some what picture it that being said i do think human interaction has influnce on quantum system cause everthing within a quantum system can affect it would make no sense a human which has quantum attributes not to affect the the wave field mainly cause human beings are also quantum beings that's just a fact its not really observation rather the interaction between us and the field itself that influences the consequence

The quantum fields might not even be fundamental, the true nature of reality is probably far crazier and difficult for us to understand.

The best way to understand quantum mechanics is to have a wave/field only interpretation meaning no point particles, you do end up missing the following though
1. the collapse of the wavefunction.
2. gravity.

We already have working theory of quantum gravity when the gravity is weak and tge collapse of the wavefunction can just be added by hand later tk make everything work.[/QUOTE]

 

[reptiles]

The evolving block model is a-theory of time i think.


"reincarnation" is a bad word but i find myself using it anyway.

Maybe i should call the process in which your conscious experience continue after the death of your current body "viscineration" which is a word i made up.


The quantum fields might not even be fundamental, the true nature of reality is probably far crazier and difficult for us to understand.

The best way to understand quantum mechanics is to have a wave/field only interpretation meaning no point particles, you do end up missing the following though
1. the collapse of the wavefunction.
2. gravity.

We already have working theory of quantum gravity when the gravity is weak and tge collapse of the wavefunction can just be added by hand later tk make everything work.

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The evolving block model is a-theory of time i think.


As far as i am aware no the main distinction the past is in a fully determined state it can no longer changed and it exists.


"reincarnation" is a bad word but i find myself using it anyway.

''Maybe i should call the process in which your conscious experience continue after the death of your current body "viscineration" which is a word i made up.''

Well you would be eternally dead and alive at the same time cause their would a tensed state where you where alive but their would also be the tenseless state while you are still alive after your death you no longer are alive it's a bit of a schrodinger box thing your both dead and alive at the same time.

''The quantum fields might not even be fundamental, the true nature of reality is probably far crazier and difficult for us to understand.''


Offcourse it is you should look up super symmetry we actually found computer code in the smallest units of reality this does not per say lead to simulation as it is merely descriptive but it does point towards a holographic kind of universe.


''The best way to understand quantum mechanics is to have a wave/field only interpretation meaning no point particles, you do end up missing the following though
1. the collapse of the wavefunction.
2. gravity. ''


I mean were both were both waves and particles were dual property beings wave functions collapse cause of external influences not conscious thought but rather interaction between other factors human interaction does collaspse a wave function because human beings are wave waves and particles it makes no sense why human interaction coudn't change the wave function.

''We already have working theory of quantum gravity when the gravity is weak and tge collapse of the wavefunction can just be added by hand later tk make everything work ''

I mean external factors would influnce the collapse of the wave function itself that's kind what bohmian mechanics advocates for