Debunking them.us regarding transmaxxing

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This time it's the left lying about us because we don't fit into their narrative.

https://archive.is/AP1ex
What Is Transmaxxing? Everything You Need to Know About The Alt-Right Concept
It's not an alt-right concept.
everything you need to know about the ideology and how people are connecting it to Charlie Kirk's shooting.
It has nothing to do with the shooting. We are not the ones advocating for insanity like the second amendment or engaging in illegal political terrorism.

https://vintologi.com/threads/charlie-kirk-has-been-brutally-shot-in-the-neck-and-later-died.3711/#post-12382
What is transmaxxing? What are groypers?
I am aware of 0 groypers or anyone even liking Nick Fuentes (nazi) in our community and his ideology is actively opposed by a large chunk of our community. I personally find the whole thing he is pushing very much off-putting.
Transmaxxing is an incel ideology in “Black Pill” circles that stems from transphobia, misogyny, and white supremacy.
Yes being in favor of medical transition comes from transphobia. That totally make sense.

Transmaxxing has always been inclusive with regard to race and this does include our leadership as well. I also put effort into including people of different 'races' (or whatever) in the transmaxxing manifesto.

What they call "misogyny here is merely the notion of female privilege since they think that implies anti-woman policies due to gender equality being the goal. This is common with feminists but obviously isn't true since there are female supremacists out there who do not actually believe males have it better, they just don't care.
The problem with the “transmaxxing” theory is that it does not contend with the realities of living as a trans woman in a systemically transphobic and misogynistic world.
No the biggest problem trans females face is misandry extended to MtF individuals and general transphobia. That's why passing is so important and if you cannot pass you cannot really transmaxx to begin with since being perceived as a female is key to gaining female privileges.

Anti-trans activists almost without exception refer to trans females as men and then use anti-male sentiment/rhetoric against them.

When was the last time you heard an anti-trans activist advocating for treating trans-women as women?
Contrary to these statistical realities, Vintologi writes “trans women will benefit from the increasing female privilege.” This supposed privilege has no factual basis as all women are still the subject of discrimination and violence (sexual and otherwise) on the basis of their sex, while being paid an average of 85 cents on the dollar when compared to their cis male counterparts.
Notice how no citation was provided (was general for basically any factual claim made)

Why would a company hire males at all if they could hire females to do the same job for 15% less?

Reality: men earn more in large because they need to chase money and status to attract females. They are generally not really the ones benefiting from those higher earnings.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/digital-assets/2024/03/07/who-runs-the-world-women-control-85-of-purchases-29-of-stem-roles/

https://www.warc.com/content/feed/women-to-control-75-of-discretionary-spending-by-2030/en-GB/9347

If you look at the homeless and prison population you see that it's mostly men. Men as a whole really isn't doing so great.

https://endhomelessness.org/resources/research-and-analysis/demographic-data-project-gender-and-individual-homelessness/

https://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/statistics_inmate_gender.jsp

Women are also not generally more likely to become victim of violent crimes.

https://www.consumershield.com/articles/victims-of-violent-crime-by-gender
How is transmaxxing being used to perpetuate transphobia?
It's not. Conservatives stopped talking about us because them giving us attention didn't exactly work out. We haven't had a conservative journalist reach out to us in years now. The people on the left didn't even reach out before writing about us.

https://vintologi.com/threads/new-clickbait-articles-about-transmaxxing.1272

We are not in any way to blame for trans activists utterly failing to the point where trans people in the US are at the risk of ending up in camps or even worse.

Trans activists however are very much to blame since most of them wrongly believed that gender-critical feminism could somehow be trans-inclusive which is how we ended up with the farce that is (mostly was) gender identity politics.

https://www.reddit.com/r/transmaxxing/comments/j8t1i0/is_gender_identity_politics_bad_for_trans_people/

https://www.reddit.com/r/transmaxxing/comments/1lqku8f/feminism_is_antitrans/
 

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Majestic_Bet6187 wrote:

Transmaxxing is a valid way to be trans.

Background_Bus7980 wrote:

according to the left, you can only transition if you further feminism's goal...

the moment you start thinking about yourself, you are an enemy...

all this talk about 'how is left out of touch and we need to go back to class analysis' but no one is ready to question the fact that women hold power in patriarchy and maybe that privilege has translated into feminism.

vintologi24 wrote:

Leftwing logic: let's not focus on distractions like trans people potentially ending up in camps and instead we should focus on important things like raising the taxes (even if it does massive damage on the rich or the creation of worker co-ops (even when it make no economical sense to do so).

Your real class in society is not based on how much money you earn. What matters is how much power you possess in total so in that sense Stephen Miller might be higher up than Elon Musk due to Miller having a lot of influence in the Trump administration now (while musk is mostly on the outside now).

But regardless of how you measure it people tend to not actually have loyalties based on class. JKR for example will support working class cis females over rich trans females.

What's make the whole thing worse is that the type of feminism the left demands you support now (gender-critical feminism) is very much antithetical to real trans acceptance.

Background_Bus7980 wrote:

the thing is they are aware of that...they will put gender over class when the gender is women...

but when it comes to men, they will put class over gender...all because of the notion of male privilege and patriarchy....

At least Judith Butler puts gender at center... first

personally I think feminism needs to move away from the left..it's good that the right wing is merging with feminism...the left should be picking up either on queer rights or MRA next...but the left has no clue how to talk to men...when all they have to do is say 'misandry exists' lol...
idk what the left is doing tbh...its gotten into a weird neo conservative bent lately post Trump's win.
 
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