One thing you have to watch out for, with "game theory" is that people are always going to try to manipulate you into behaving a certain way by making

Leucosticte

Well-known member
Messages
916
#1
blanket statements about what chicks want.

The oldest trick in the book for trying to manipulate male behavior is to say, "Doing x will get you laid." So for example, feminists will say, if you want to get a date, you need to be a sensitive man or whatever. This could be because (1) they want you to behave in a way that comports with the feminist agenda, or (2) they just want to sabotage your chances of getting laid with hot young chicks by giving you bad advice.

On the flip side of the coin, there could be guys telling you, "You need to be alpha or you won't get laid." This might be used by misogynists to get you to treat women poorly because they simply don't like women and want to encourage guys to treat them poorly; or it could be that they want to demoralize you into thinking, "Gee, I'm not alpha, so I might as well not even bother trying to get chicks."

It's actually fairly normal these days to end up going through dry spells where you don't get any chicks, and in those situations it could be easy for people to demoralize you by making you think you have nothing to offer a woman. In reality, there are a lot of chicks these days who are also going through dry spells. Eventually you may run into one who is either desperate enough, and/or you just happen to have chemistry with her because you meet each other's standards. But, the conventional wisdom would try to tell you that this won't happen.

With regard to that, again, there are a couple different kinds of mindfucks you can receive. One is the platitude where people say, "You'll get a chick someday" which is intended to keep you from advocating for any solution to the systemic problems that make it hard to get a high-quality chick, or make long waiting periods necessary. The other is when they say, "You'll NEVER get a chick" to try to demoralize you.

The reality is that all this "game theory" and even "looks theory" about what chicks prefer is often intended by both the men and chicks who say this stuff to put them higher up in the hierarchy than you, at least in your mind and in others'.

Basically you have to stay skeptical about what people say are the secrets or requirements to getting laid because there are a lot of variables and the landscape out there is ever-changing. There are even random factors that can determine whether you get laid.
 

adolf512

Staff member
Moderator
Messages
380
#2
You should ignore these statents unless they can provide proper evidence.

There has never been much evidence supporting the notion that mental illness or misogyni is the main reason for why incels are rejected, it's just convenient to state that since it makes them look bad.

It could be a vicious circle where rejection results in mental issues resulting in you being rejected even more, this is a general phenomenom in life, issues compounding and things just getting worse until you die.
 

Leucosticte

Well-known member
Messages
916
#3
You should ignore these statents unless they can provide proper evidence.

There has never been much evidence supporting the notion that mental illness or misogyni is the main reason for why incels are rejected, it's just convenient to state that since it makes them looo bad.
It's just a convenient mindfuck to reverse the chain of causality and say, "It's your misogyny that makes you volcel" rather than "it's your inceldom that makes you misogynistic". This means you have two choices: (1) be quietly misogynistic, even if you don't get laid; or (2) continue being vocally misogynistic, and get blamed for your inceldom. They're trying to eliminate the other option, (3) be vocally misogynistic and be recognized as having a legit point.

It's kind of like how chicks say, "I only let nice guys fuck me" and then say, "If you were truly a nice guy, though, you would do nice stuff for me without any expectation of sex in return. Since you complain about not getting sex from me, that means you're not a nice guy and don't DESERVE sex from me."

They're trying to eliminate your option to point out inconsistencies between what they say and what they do (e.g. if you see her continue to let an asshole fuck her, and point this out, you lose your ability to claim to be a nice guy, because a nice guy would not say, "Hey, according to your own statements about how you choose mates, shouldn't you be choosing me instead?" As soon as you say that, you're considered equally bad as the asshole she's letting fuck her, because that makes you just another asshole, and therefore you don't have any rightful claim that you should be allowed to fuck her instead.)
 
Top