Media overhyping COVID-19 ?

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/gannett-announces-pay-cuts-and-furloughs-across-entire-media-company

One of the largest newspaper companies in America on Monday announced massive furloughs and pay cuts across the company due to plummeting advertising revenue in the wake of coronavirus pandemic.
With the rest of the economy tanking, advertising has gone the way of the dodo bird too, and media companies have no revenue, and must lay off their staff.

But, I guess maybe billionaires like Jeff Bezos can still keep funding the operations they control? According to Amazon, their orders have gone up. Although they're also having problems with their staff. https://www.wsj.com/articles/amazon-struggles-to-find-its-coronavirus-footing-its-a-time-of-great-stress-11585664987

Idk, it's one thing for them to exist like parasites, but isn't it reaching a point where their destruction of the host is also affecting them?
 

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The media have been dishonest but it's in the other direction, it's actually really bad, millions of people will die becuase governments didn't take proper action in time.

Since it takes about 20 days for you to die there will be a delay until you see how bad the situation is and when the deaths increase exponentially to the thousands it's already too late and it will continue going up for 20 days.
 

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The media have been dishonest but it's in the other direction, it's actually really bad, millions of people will die becuase governments didn't take proper action in time.

Since it takes about 20 days for you to die there will be a delay until you see how bad the situation is and when the deaths increase exponentially to the thousands it's already too late and it will continue going up for 20 days.
Man, it seems like the infection rate and deaths have seen a huge spike lately
 

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that's interesting though, that the media might not be benefiting from this

we saw almost every digital journo outlet put up paywalls lately, maybe this is just a last gasp of free traditional media
 

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deaths may continue and increase, and worse case scenario, so lets say its a few milllion really sick people worldwide who die. There's almost 8000 million people worldwide.

The main characters of this arc are 1. doctors 2. boomers 3. media, and I hate almost all of them all and they are full of themselves
 

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99% of people dying from it already had very serious medical conditions
https://vintologi.com/threads/2019-novel-coronavirus-pandemic.265/#post-2703

so unless you have a serious medical condition
Several people now dead were thinking the same thing. But even if you survive (most likely) you are still likely to end up with permanent lung damage from it.

you are not going to die from this extra flu
It's not a flu, people like you are the reason millions of people will die.

 

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single digits died in italy under 30
it's not even a worry
What in part of the sentences "permanent lung damage" do you fail to understand?

It's not about the (minor) risk of death you need to worry about when you are young and healthy, if it only was that you could of course just ignore it.
 

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There is no reason to believe in anything for which there is not evidence, and the burden of proof is on the person making the end-of-the-world claims, always.

Until you can link me x amount of people have x damage in x location which produces x symptoms in x% of the population of x age with x pre-existing-conditions which shows up as x% on x test, from a reputable source, there is nowhere to go from here.

The link you showed me said 86,000 recovering among those most severely affected (ie were ill enough to be tested). and 1/6th of that severe group had possible lung complications, no details about age or pre-existing conditions either.

We can expect double digits amount of people infected in italy because 3% of the population in Vò were tested positive after they tested literally everyone in Vò, and this was in late February. https://www.ft.com/content/0dba7ea8-6713-11ea-800d-da70cff6e4d3 So now that it's April, and 3% were infected in late February, in those areas that were not quarantined early, we could expect double digit infection now. Now do million of young people in italy have lung issues now that double digits of the population were infected at some point? There is no evidence of that. If there was evidence of that it would show up in Pulse Oximeter readings in millions of healthy young people all across Italian PCP and emergency room settings, raising alarm. But there is no evidence for that. My oxygen reading is 99% pretty much all day, I tested it with a 24/7 digital thing for a sleep apnea test beacuse of an insomnia issue I've had for over a year, and I probably got infected by at least one coronavirus in my lifetime, if not COVID-19 this year. I've also used it recently. I don't have oxygen issues. Same for other young people.

Even some so-called mild or common-cold-type coronaviruses that have been known for decades can have case fatality rates as high as 8% when they infect elderly people in nursing homes. In fact, such “mild” coronaviruses infect tens of millions of people every year, and account for 3% to 11% of those hospitalized in the U.S. with lower respiratory infections each winter. https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/17/a-fiasco-in-the-making-as-the-coronavirus-pandemic-takes-hold-we-are-making-decisions-without-reliable-data/
 
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There is no reason to believe in anything for which there is not evidence
There are many cases where you have to make an educated guess based on limited information.

and the burden of proof is on the person making the end-of-the-world claims, always.
We are not discussing the end of the world, we are discussing the very real complication you may suffer from even if you do survive an COVID-19 infection. The burden on proof does not depend on who is making the claim.

Until you can link me x amount of people have x damage in x location which produces x symptoms in x% of the population of x age with x pre-existing-conditions which shows up as x% on x test, from a reputable source, there is nowhere to go from here.
So you think we are just going to let people get infected becuase we dont yet know how dangerous it is? thats retarded and you should know better.

I suggest instead that we are careful and vigilant until and unless you have solid evidence being infected isn't dangerous in any way.
 

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It's fine, according to you, he's giving good advices.
This is not a place for spreading misinformation regarding covid-19 and other topics. I dont want any member or follower of vintologi to die and get seriously harmed due to needlessly contracting covid-19.

It's a similar situation with anthropogenic global warming, people will deny reality and tell themselves "it's not that bad" until it's too late to fix the problem.
 

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In the next weeks weeks, people are gonna say, 'remember when we use
This is not a place for spreading misinformation regarding covid-19 and other topics. I dont want any member or follower of vintologi to die and get seriously harmed due to needlessly contracting covid-19.

It's a similar situation with anthropogenic global warming, people will deny reality and tell themselves "it's not that bad" until it's too late to fix the problem.
6. people. below. the. age. of. 30. died. in. italy. of. coronavirus.

That's even being generous given Italy labeled anyone dying who had coronavirus as a coronavirus death
Stop fearmongering
 
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