"I've sacrificed so much my whole life, so it's my turn to be selfish"

Leucosticte

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I see women say this a lot. I'm not sure I've ever heard a man say it. Men who have some ideal they value are often willing to sacrifice seemingly forever because they view it as their life's purpose, while women seem to get exhausted by it.

I think it just has to do with emotional resiliency. The same amount of sacrifice will take a greater toll on a woman, so she perceives she's sacrificing more, and therefore deserves more in return.

It would be more accurate for them to say, "I've been so miserable and I just can't take it anymore" but that would sound weak, so instead they say that they haven't gotten their fair share. Well, who has, really? Who hasn't been fucked over? If we all were to feel like it were legitimate to claim, "I've been fucked over, so that means I'm entitled to do what I want," it would be impossible to maintain any moral standards.

Some of the weakest people, who gave the least to benefit others, will say that they've sacrificed the most, because in reality it doesn't take much for them to feel exhausted and like they just need some "me time" even though their whole lives have pretty much consisted of doing whatever they wanted, regardless of what anyone else had to say about it.

Men can get burnt out too, I guess, though, after awhile, and that's when the moral decay sets in. Theoretically, if we've been fucked over, we should be able to empathize and say, "Well, I don't want others to suffer what I had to suffer, because then we never make progress," but a lot of times it's the opposite; people say, "Others should have to suffer what I suffered, because it's only fair that we all have to endure the same stuff."

I don't go out of my way to inflict suffering, but sometimes I do give into this type of mentality when I end up in a situation by accident, or when it seems pointless to try to resist the system. E.g., I backed into someone's car in a parking lot and did some damage, and then just drove off, and justified it by saying, "My car has been run into many times by people who didn't leave a note, and I had to eat the repair costs; so if this one time, I accidentally do the same to someone else, I'm not going to feel too bad if they have to eat the costs."

If I weren't burnt out, though, or if I had more integrity, I might say, "Well, the fact that I've had to eat those costs, and that it was a hardship for me, just indicates all the more that I should try to uphold a high standard by not doing that to others." But, it's also easy for me to say, "That dude has an expensive car, so therefore he can probably afford to get it fixed." The guy who ran into my car and drove off, though, maybe said the same to himself -- that he was a disadvantaged individual compared to me and that therefore he didn't need to feel too bad about it, since for him to volunteer to pay would only make him even more disadvantaged compared to me.

Or, since I've donated blood many times in my youth, I might say, "I don't feel like I need to donate any more blood." I feel burnt out, and also, I've heard that sometimes they waste the donated blood anyway. Come to think of it, I haven't even heard of an urgent blood drive in a long time, where they said they only had a few days' worth of blood in the bank.
 

Leucosticte

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The funny thing about situations where someone says, "I'm sacrificing" is that usually the other people involved, for whom they're allegedly sacrificing, are suffering right along with them. E.g., let's suppose you're a kid whose mom works 10-hour days at her job. You probably suffer from getting stuck at babysitters or having to be alone at home, or whatever. But she'll one day say that she sacrificed that whole time so that the family could eat.

A dad, of course, who spends his whole adult life working to support his family will not go around talking about his great sacrifices, because it's viewed as more normal for men to have to slave away like that so that others can be comfortable. In fact, he'll even probably call his wife his better half and whatnot, even though she could never carry those same burdens; I'm not actually sure what makes the wife better, exactly, other than that she caters to him in bed or whatever, and he's appreciative of that.
 

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A lot of times, the reason people end up making great sacrifices is because of their intransigence and inflexibility. E.g., let's take the example of the woman who marries a guy who's a bad provider. She probably married him because he's the type of guy she can control. Those same qualities of submissiveness, though, also make him kind of a shitty provider, because he's not all that much of a go-getter. Just like he's not the type to bend her to his will, he's also not the type to bend the world to his will, so that he can extract from it what he needs to support his family.

Or, his lack of control over her gives him less motivation to try to support the family, because even if he succeeds as a provider, she's still not gonna reward him all that much really, because even if she stays home as a housewife, she'll view that as a sacrifice too on her part. So basically no matter what, she won't be happy. She'll view herself as put-upon no matter what happens.
 

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Testosterone is a worker/warrior hormone meaning self-sacrifice for other people, taking risks, often failing miserably.

Estrogen instead give you pleasure and emotions.

In terms of scoring high on typical IQ-tests it deosn't really matter but it is relevant in situations where emotions are involved in addition to influencing who you are as a person.
 

Leucosticte

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Testosterone is a worker/warrior hormone meaning self-sacrifice for other people, taking risks, often failing miserably.

Estrogen instead give you pleasure and emotions.

In terms of scoring high on typical IQ-tests it deosn't really matter but it is relevant in situations where emotions are involved in addition to influencing who you are as a person.
What's the point of going trans, though, unless feminists will be trans-inclusionary enough to give you a pat on the head for finally leaving the side of evil to come over to their side?
 

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I use exactly this kind of logic. Since I’ve been incel for a long time, I have a right to be an egoist and care only about myself.
 

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What's the point of going trans, though, unless feminists will be trans-inclusionary enough to give you a pat on the head for finally leaving the side of evil to come over to their side?
A lot of feminists are just irrational and thus fail to properly welcome trans girls to their movement and make them feel welcome.

By excluding people you make your movement weaker in addition to making people upset due to you rejecting them.
 
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