Is there some way to shoehorn support for suicide into this religion?

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I mean, Jim Jones and Heavens Gate were able to. What about this cult?

Maybe I could kill myself if, e.g., Vintologi were to say, "As a demonstration of our power and solidarity, we want to be able to say that we pushed you over the edge to killing yourself." Then it would serve a greater good and I'd be getting all this moral support.

You might even be able to get some publicity that way, and draw more attention to the Vintological bible, and in turn get more users, maybe even Wikipedia notability, etc. Especially since I'm semi-famous; you could probably direct some reporter's attention to my posts here, and then the fact that I was inspired to kill myself by Vintologi could end up in my Wikipedia biography.

It would be kinda like how Luka Magnotta did whatever it took to become Wikipedia-famous.

I tried to get Reggie to support my suicide, but he did something unfortunate, which was, several days into it, when I was starting to suffer symptoms, he started saying I should abort my attempt. I guess he just lost his nerve when he saw my seriousness.
 
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About suicide
By killing yourself you will be able to escape personal problems specific to your current life but you may not be able to escape systemic problems that face almost everyone.

The probability of you being able to escape a problem will depend on how big part of the upcoming humans that end up facing said problem but even if you are lucky enough to escape it one life you may not have the same luck next life.

Sometimes you need to take simply permanently solve an issue in order to secure good upcoming life, just trying to escape systemic issues is not a valid long term solution.
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Okay, what if I say, that's a risk I'm willing to take, for the greater good? If I say, "I believe in the next life, I won't be any worse off than in this life, so why not just kill myself" doesn't that demonstrate faith in Vintologi; which is a show of strength and therefore makes the church more impressive?
 
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Leucosticte said:
Okay, what if I say, that's a risk I'm willing to take, for the greater good? If I say, "I believe in the next life, I won't be any worse off than in this life, so why not just kill myself" doesn't that demonstrate faith in Vintologi; which is a show of strength and therefore makes the church more impressive?
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people will for better or worse take vintologi more seriously if someone do something crazy like that.

The fact that you might reincarnate into a worse situation is likely to instead deter some people from suicide, you cannot just kill yourself over and over either since you might not realize you will reincarnate after you die the next life, you might not even be able to kill yourself or your biological drive to survive and reproduce will be too strong for you to just give up.
 
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people will for better or worse take vintologi more seriously if someone do something crazy like that.

The fact that you might reincarnate into a worse situation is likely to instead deter some people from suicide, you cannot just kill yourself over and over either since you might not realize you will reincarnate after you die the next life, you might not even be able to kill yourself or your biological drive to survive and reproduce will be too strong for you to just give up.
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Look at it this way, if I live to the natural end of my pathetic life, and in the meantime this religion hasn't taken off, then what are the odds I'd discover this religion in the next life? For all we know, it could be lost forever.

But, if I sacrifice my life to make this religion more famous, then I could very well end up reading about it in the next life.
 
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