Mental illnesses are like religious denominations now

[Leucosticte]

I've seen people on Wikipedia, Tumblr, and other site proudly proclaiming their mental illnesses. Basically they want to claim membership in a community, the same way one would based on race or religion or nationality or other characteristics.

These communities try to take care of their own, too. The autism community, for instance, will defend its members who get caught with child porn. See, e.g., https://www.spectrumnews.org/features/deep-dive/when-autistic-people-commit-sexual-crimes/

I have a friend who's facing child porn charges, and I sent him some articles like that. It wouldn't surprise me if he tries to claim some kind of autism defense, even though he's definitely not any kind of mentalcel; he's pretty much a guitar-playing slayer who was married with two kids and banged quite a lot of other chicks besides. I don't know of too many autistic guys who are able to do that.

Anyway, I've encouraged him to claim he was just exercising his First Amendment rights, which three justices agreed in the Osborne v. Ohio case we have, to view CP in the privacy of our homes. But I don't think he'll raise that defense. He would have to take his case to trial, and risk getting 40 years instead of 15, and try to appeal his case to the U.S. Supreme Court and get them to take another look at what they decided 30 years ago, when the cultural and technological environment, and the membership of the Court, was much different.

Problem is, his lawyer is not gonna want to do that, I'm thinking. His lawyer might fear such an argument could be regarded as frivolous. Or he might just be unwilling to raise an argument that doesn't have the support of a big community behind it of other like-minded lawyers and civil liberties activists, law professors, or shrinks, etc.

Nah, his lawyer is probably just gonna wanna say, "Your honor, my client recognizes he has a problem and is in need of treatment, and he's willing to cooperate." That's probably going to be about the extent of it. He might mention something like, "Your honor, he only had one image" in mitigation, but that's already factored into the recommendation of the sentencing guidelines.

Anyway, pedos have tried to join various communities, e.g. they've tried to find shelter under the LGBTQ umbrella by calling themselves pedosexuals and saying it's a sexual orientation. It hasn't worked too well. The problem is, with the exception of boylovers, they're just not faggoty enough to fit in with that crowd. And even boylovers sometimes seem culturally like they would be misfits in the LGBTQ community, although they did belong to some of the gay umbrella organizations for awhile (e.g. NAMBLA was part of ILGA. https://apnews.com/c64e816cac5b0fa1194dd40f576813b2 )

It's kind of like what happened to the Libertarian movement; at one time, a guy like me could've fit into it, and did fit into it, but not anymore. Its culture has drastically changed as they've tried to go mainstream in an effort to get more support.

 

[Admin]

Since there isn't any good test to determine if someone has a mental illness this cult-behavior is to be expected. You can always find some mental illness you meet the criteria for, probably 5 to 20 in total.

This is useful if you want to change your sex, you can always claim you have "gender dysphoria" and nobody will be able to prove you are lying about it, it's not actually different in practise from the gender identity crowd "i now identify as a girl".

Religion = psychiatry
rituals = CBT and taking psychiatric drugs
forced conversions = yes (CTO, etc)
churches = yes (psych wards)
state religion = yes (global state religion)
bible = dsm

 

[Leucosticte]

I think people who have a logical way of thinking claim autism as a defensive measure for when SJWs try to get them to adopt illogical beliefs.

It's basically the same as the atheism / Christianity dichotomy that existed back when Christianity was more relevant in America. Atheists formed a community of nonbelievers and talked about how much smarter they were.

Logical people who don't want to buy into SJWism claim autism, and for example say that their chans are powered by autism. It's noteworthy that shrinks have become so powerful that to start one of these communities where you have any shelter from getting dismantled by SJWs and/or the government, you have to get the shrinks' blessing.

One way in which claiming autism can be beneficial is, for example, if you get busted for child porn. The autism community will support you and say that you didn't understand how looking at child porn would re-victimize someone whose dad had sex with her 20 years ago when she was a kid. It's actually pretty logical to not see much of a connection there, but you can't just come out and say, "I'm being logical" because then people will fight you with a bunch of fallacious arguments like the ad hominem, "A pedo WOULD say that!" or the appeal to force, "I'll beat your ass for saying that" or "Sounds like you need to be locked up," etc.

So instead you say, "I'm autistic" and start flapping your arms, in hopes they'll let you off the hook. The autistic community is basically the only community that's allowed to get lenience for child porn based on a mental illness; certainly they're not going to extend the same courtesy to, say, psychopaths or narcissists or those who have been diagnosed with pedophilic disorder. https://www.emerald.com/insight/content/doi/10.1108/JIDOB-06-2018-0008/full/html

Autists are viewed as fairly harmless, because being autistic is almost by definition the opposite of being "cool"; the autist is assumed to value function over form in all areas, and thus be an extremely nerdy and unattractive guy, essentially the equivalent of Linux to the rest of the world's Linux or Mac. The main reason child porn is stigmatized is because of its role in the power structure of relations between the sexes, but the autist is assumed to be a sexless guy who exists outside that power structure and therefore is harmless and irrelevant.

Of course, some guys, like my buddy Drake, have a history of saying a lot of humorous stuff, which would tend to go against the stereotype of the earnest autist who takes everything literally; plus he's pretty good with women, apparently, which also goes against the stereotype. (Being a slayer is more commonly associated with psychopathy.) But, one way to get around all that is to just pretend like everything humorous the autist ever said, he meant literally; and if a literal interpretation would be bizarre, one can just say that such bizarre thought patterns are typical of the autist. Who knows, maybe he perceived what he said to be literally true; the truth that are usually left unspoken by non-autists are often bizarre, so there could be some plausible deniability there.

 

[Leucosticte]

Autism can also be used as an excuse for being a troll, which is kinda ironic because one would think that a knowledge of what's going to trigger others would require some social awareness. But the autist can claim, "I didn't mean to trigger anyone; I was just being honest because that's how autists are."

Autists also have an excuse for being principled. It's extremely frowned upon these days, even by those who dissent from the party line, to be principled except in ways that the establishment supports (e.g. enduring discomfort for the sake of making a point about global warming, like Greta Thunberg did in sailing across the Atlantic).

Because it's gotten to be so unsafe to dissent from the "mainstream" views promoted by (((the media))), the (((psychiatric establishment))), etc., people really look down, or act as if they look down, on those who take a stand for unpopular principles, or more specifically, principles that go against the establishment, to the point that this kind of behavior will often be diagnosed as a mental illness. E.g., Dylann Roof has been labeled an autist for shooting up a bunch of blacks and calling upon whites to launch a revolution. It's a way to discredit him, but his lawyers apparently also see an opportunity to get him off the hook, at least as far as the death penalty is concerned, by saying his autism simply kept him from knowing any better than to say and do the kinds of stuff that led to his getting sentenced to death.

 

[Admin]

There is however several issues with calling yourself autistic
1. you claim that you are defective mentally implying that what you state can just be ignored.
2. you legitimize the dsm system
3. it will not hold as insanity defense even if you have early official diagnosis.

It's more badass to sate "i know this is offensive but it's the reality of the situation", this instead give you credibility since you show you know it's not socially acceptable but you state it anyway becuase you view it as important.

Donald Trump gave the impression to his crows that he was honest with them "saying as it is" when in reality he actually put effort into adapting his message based on his audience feedback.

 

[Leucosticte]

you claim that you are defective mentally implying that what you state can just be ignored.

In some circumstances, that's going to happen anyway. For example, let's say I threaten the President. They're going to diagnose me with something, it's just a question of what. In my case, they said, depressive disorder and paranoid, antisocial, and narcissistic personality disorder.

Later, I expressed interest in sex with kids and they said I had pedophilia and autism.

In that case, though, they said I was one of the dangerous kinds of autists, who might molest kids because he doesn't understand why that's bad. For some reason, though, people want to cut the autists who look at CP some slack.

Idk, there's somewhat of a movement among jurists to cut non-production CP offenders in general some slack, but their opinion on that topic isn't unanimous, and members of Congress certainly aren't interested in going on record as wanting to get rid of these draconian penalties.

The situation kinda reminds me of what Zesto once said, about why he ran a forum advocating gassing the kikes at the same time that he doxxed his enemies for antisemitism: "Even ItsOver and I joked that we think hating Jews is based as fuck but normies don't so we're going to shame these guys anyway."

People who know that it's normal to be attracted to kids will still grab opportunities to fuck over their enemies by accusing them of supporting pedophilia. For example, people want to say that the LGBTQ movement is all about child molestation, which it sorta is to some extent, but then again, lots of people are interested in sex with, or at least messing around with, kids. It's just that a lot of guys, by the time they get to a point of admitting they're incel, don't feel like they have much to lose by also admitting to being pedo. Then again, incel is not just a status but a culture, and pedo stuff is part of that culture, because it goes along with the general philosophy that society caters to chicks' expressed wishes and feelings too much.

 

[Leucosticte]

1. you claim that you are defective mentally implying that what you state can just be ignored.

It was also inevitable that Dylann Roof would get diagnosed with something. The dude is kinda eccentric but he's also pretty logical, like Timothy McVeigh. I think shooters typically are more likely to be considered mentally than bombers, though, because a bomber could theoretically get away with his crime, while a shooter typically will get caught.

Anyway, Roof fought really hard to not be considered autistic, but at this point his lawyers are just going against his wishes and saying he's not competent to decide whether he should put forth a defense based on mental illness. They say his mental illness keeps him from making good decisions about stuff that has to do with his mental illness, so it's kind of a catch-22.

 

[Oxblood]

I am not an autist but I used this label, not for the reasons you talked about in this thread.

 

[Leucosticte]

I am not an autist but I used this label, not for the reasons you talked about in this thread.

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