SJWs offer no path to redemption

Leucosticte

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Guys like Roosh and Victor Pride are trying to turn to religion as a way of gaining some kind of redemption after saying a lot of misogynistic stuff on the Internet.

The problem is, SJW-ism is the dominant religion today, and it offers no path to redemption. It doesn't matter if the Orthodox Church says "You're forgiven for all that fornicating you did, and all those unclean thoughts you had, before you went celibate and deleted all your misogynistic posts"; that doesn't keep the SJWs from giving you a hard time.

The SJWs don't support men being religious, since religious men might be opposed to female sluttiness. Religious men think that if they give up fornication, in exchange, they can get chicks to give up sluttiness. It won't work.

If SJWs were okay with the precepts of, say, Christianity, they would've converted to Christianity. They're not okay with it, though, and there's not really any plan for how Christianity can achieve dominance over SJWs at this point in time. How would they have another rise to power; they already gave up their power so apparently they didn't want it. Why would they arbitrarily try to get their power back now; they obviously don't believe in themselves.

Roosh and the other PUAs are trying to seem harmless so people will leave them alone. That isn't really compatible with having a will to power. And you need power if you want to be treated decently. A harmless man is just a weakling who will be trampled upon; at least a harmless, timid, submissive woman is viewed as desirable because she can be raped and made to clean a man's home and bear his children.

Roosh's strength was his eloquence and willingness to tell the truth. Now he's taken down all that work. What's the point, though?

I understand his psychology because I've been there. He's just doing this in hopes that by making himself irrelevant, he'll be left alone. Okay, but don't expect us to be inspired to join your religion, then. We'll join some other religion that isn't practiced by a bunch of weak, cowardly pussies who want to withdraw from the fight and take down their contributions to society that were what we respected about them.

Because he gives us no reason to join his religion, his religion will never be popular (the ruling elite joins a religion or at least respects the fact that the masses believe in a religion, so therefore it has relevance for what they do), and therefore it will never have power, and therefore it will not serve to shield him from the consequences of what he said in the past.

He's going to be stuck sitting in his basement as an incel, except now he won't even be an incel with a meaningful following that aspires to greatness. He might as well have just gone ER, and let his neomasculinity essay (summarized here) be his manifesto about what kind of world we should have. Then he would have been immortalized.

He's not getting pussy anyway, so what does he have to lose? Girls are not gonna be like, "You're so awesome for renouncing your life's work and becoming yet another beta schlub, except in this case, you're not even a white schlub; you're some middle eastern mongrel with an unkempt beard that looks like public hair except whiter."

Since he devoted the past couple decades to being an intellectual, that shows he's probably not cut out for the work world, so he won't prosper as a beta anyway, even by beta standards.

See also https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-62892.html (My essay, Strategies for surrendering and living the rest of your life as a broken man)
 
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adolf512

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TERF are like this against trans individuals, they dont clearly state what their demands are, instead they claim that trans women are sex perverts as if autogynephilia wouldn't be a valid reason to transition.

Their real demand is that you should kill yourself or
1. Do not transition medically in any way
2. Detransition if you have already started transitioning
3. Tell all your sex partner about you having autogynephilia (this is very bad idea)
4. Do not in any way speak up against the terf ideology

This while having almost no real political power, this results in a lot of frustration for them becuase people just ignore them or actively work against them.

A terf once suggested i should focus on hiking or something so i replied with that i am planning to get a gun license and of course she flipped out as a result. Trying to appease people who hate you is futile, they want to hate you and they will fimd reasons to hate you.

In vintologi the paths for redemption in the case of incels is transmaxxing (if they are decent candidate) otherwise paying for sex is recommended.
 

Leucosticte

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What's sad is that Roosh took the path not only of physical celibacy but also of intellectual celibacy. Not only is he not putting his genetics out there, but he's not even putting his ideas out there either; he's cucked in every way now. Might as well just kill himself and complete the work of being totally useless.

At least I still aspire to gain some knowledge and make use of it; what does Roosh even do when he's not hanging out in his mom's basement or going to church? Bag groceries or something?
 
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