Linux vs windows

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Linux operating systems does offer more control to the user than windows and can also provide more security provided you refrain from installing any closed sourced software.

Windows 10 is currently the most popular operating system but then you end up having to trust microsoft which isn't ideal.

WIndows 7 used to be the most popular operating system but microsoft has intentionally sabotaged it (such as holding back important updates) to force people to switch to windows 10 where there are even more privacy concerns, this illustrates the issue with relying on just a single company.

Unfortunately since windows is popular most software will be written for it specifically while people using other operating system often get ignored or they might get a bad port. There are ways to go around this such as wine but it's messy and far from ideal, another solution is to simply install both so you can switch easily.
 

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The linux experience
With linux you can choose between many different interfaces such as XFCE4
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XFC4 is really flexible and it's really easy to modify. From best to worst (user interface):

XFCE4 (modified) > XFCE4 (stock) > cinnamon > windows 7 > windows 10 (modified) >> windows 10 (standard) > OSX
 

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The dependency horrors (linux)
With linux everything is modular. Instead of just installing one big operating system you instead install packages and these packages depend on each other. Thus when you install some program you need to also install all the packages the program depend on and then you might run into the issue of conflicts because you cannot both have a new and old version of a package.

Once i tried to install an old version of openshot but that didn't work because it depended on a package that had now been replaced and the only reason why i could even try to install openshot in the first place was because i had the old package file saved on my computer.

Sometimes updating the system can be really difficulties because of issues with these dependencies.

So while you have more control over your system in theory in practice you are constrained by the distribution you selected and there isn't any easy way to change distribution.

With windows instead you can typically just install any old version of a program and it will work even if it was made only for windows xp, they actually put effort into making sure it's backwards compatible.

The real reason why linux is more secure is becuase it's really messy to install software that isn't provided to you by the repository for your distribution, this drastically reduces the probability of you installing harmful software.
 

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Openshot
The old (linux only) version is really nice unfortunatily the new inferior version is being installed now by default.

I did however save the old version which can be installed by the "pacman -U" comman (arch linux)
 

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learning BASH is one hell of a benefit when it comes to Linux distributions, You get to use shortcuts for everything

Also if you have a old computer
You always can run a minimal distribution on it making it a useable device for testing and even actual bit of work if you can arrange it to work the way you wanted it.
 

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I have linux on a keyboard and linux on some ssds, so if I have some issues with windows I can solve most of them or use linux instead.
 

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windows is for gaymers who willingly sell their soul to FAANG cos its the trendy thing to do

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Microsoft_Windows
I use pc for 3D. Linux runs zbrush with wine, its OK, but most of the softwares arent available. Im also not willing to wait months for new drivers to come. What if Nvidia breaks ties with linux again?

So, I simply use linux on some old machines, because it runs faster and its OK. But windows isnt that bad.
 

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as the years fly every human being that consider themselves a savvy computer user will eventually come down onto linux
even the GAYMER cast of this fucking joke people call WINDOWS


learning BASH is one hell of a benefit when it comes to Linux distributions, You get to use shortcuts for everything

Also if you have a old computer
You always can run a minimal distribution on it making it a useable device for testing and even actual bit of work if you can arrange it to work the way you wanted it.
well.. u can write scripts for everything or actually find scripts, lol.
about the minimal distro shit well.. uhm it comes down to the package manager you are using
and on what is it a nigga focuses. i spent a nice time fucking around with GNU EMACS it's
a text editor that is being kept on life support by it's religious gnu sect "CoE" yet again..
there are more shit out there that perhaps will pick up ur interest as a user or
a slowly developing programmer of sorts.

I use pc for 3D. Linux runs zbrush with wine, its OK, but most of the softwares arent available. Im also not willing to wait months for new drivers to come. What if Nvidia breaks ties with linux again?

So, I simply use linux on some old machines, because it runs faster and its OK. But windows isnt that bad.
what are you making?
 

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Gaming on linux is still bad and proton does more harm than good
Proton simply reduces the incentive to make proper linux ports (to the extent such ports can be done to begin with) and it does not offer an acceptable gaming experience. Performance is pretty bad.

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GPU overclocking is also worse in linux. I have made a custom VF-curve for my RTX 3090 in windows but i cannot do the same in linux (i could still probably do some undervolting but not with worse results).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SU2mFqCOh5A

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🎮 Linux Gaming: The Roast It Has Earned
Gaming Flop!

Linux gamers love to brag about the thousands of games they “can” play. It sounds impressive until you realize half of them are DOS shareware from 1994, indie pixel platformers that run on a toaster, games that run “perfectly” as long as you don’t open the map, enter water, or press the jump key, and games that technically launch but can’t be finished.

The games that actually matter, the top 20 modern, big-budget, mainstream titles are a minefield of compatibility hacks, shader stutter, anti‑cheat roulette, and “works on my machine” copium.

Games That Actually Matter
Elden Ring -Runs until a patch breaks EAC, or a shader update nukes performance mid-boss.
Call of Duty - No: (Anticheat)
Fortnite - No
Apex Legends - No: (Anti-cheat roulette).
GTA V online - Ban risk, inconsistent!
Cyberpunk 2077 - Runs well, until a Proton regression or GPU driver update takes it out.
Red Dead Redemption 2 - Sometimes boots, sometimes doesn't.
Baldur's Gate 3 - Good until you hit a vulkan driver bug that corrupts saves
Destiny 2 -
No: (Bungie actively blocks Linux!)
Overwatch 2 - With issues: shader compilation stutter, ram usage bug (100%), and a keyboard layout bug.
The Witcher 3 - Runs unless you use mods, then it crashes frequently
Starfield - Runs, with shader compilation stutter
Hogwarts Legacy - Works until VRAM leaks or shader cache resets
FIFA / EA Sports FC - No: (EA anti-cheat)
Valorant - No: (Kernel anti-cheat)
Rainbow Six Siege - Works until Ubisoft updates something (not currently or for the foreseeable future)
The Last of Us part 1 - Runs, but shader compilation is a ritual
Monster Hunter Rise - Works well unless you hit a Proton regression
-Nintendo Switch emulation works better and is boringly consistent. FFS

Linux gamers love to say “it runs", but omit the fine print!
Some games tie timers to frame pacing or CPU scheduling. Linux’s timing quirks can make gold medals impossible, QTEs unresponsive, rhythm sections desynced, speedrun gates unbeatable. You'll waste time thinking you're missing something when actually it's the game not running properly. -I personally wasted hours on an unbeatable time trial in Trail Out (that I was actually acing).

Other issues include final cutscenes that don’t play, scripted events that don’t trigger, physics bugs that break puzzles, boss fights that softlock due to timing issues, and save corruption from Proton version mismatches.

Controller support can die mid‑game: Steam Input + Proton + SDL + gamepad configs =

a fragile Jenga tower of input mappings. One update and suddenly triggers don’t register, gyro stops working, rumble becomes a war crime, the game thinks your controller is a an old keyboard.

“It works!” (yeah -after 14 steps and 3 community patches). -Linux gamers will say a game “runs flawlessly” if: they used a custom Proton build, they installed a community DLL override, they patched the game files, they disabled esync, or they edited launch flags. Many confess that they do more fiddling than actual gaming. -Even on the Steamdeck!

Linux Gamers Drive Up Prices -and refuse to admit it! Linux gamers buy games impulsively.

They buy games that aren't even tested and return them if they don't work, work but stutter, break after a while, anti-cheat blocks it, or a patch ruins it. -But refunds aren’t free: Every refund means hidden credit card processing fees, transaction reversals., charge-back costs, and accounting overhead. Publishers have to raise prices to compensate. They treat Steam like a free demo service.

Linux users will lash out and blame devs for "not supporting Linux" instead of themselves. - Rabid Loonixtards Stupidly Get Angry at Devs
 

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Proper memory testing may have finally come to linux for 4.50€ a month
I remember complaining earlier about linux not having proper software for stresstesting your ram meaning that unless you boot to windows to confirm stability. Unstable ram can cause nasty issues such as freezes, data corruption, incorrect results from simulations, etc. It's can be very very bad.
Of course linux believers would suggest that i run various linux tests that of course didn't properly worked. The only thing that actually worked properly was to boot windows 10 to run testmem5 (with the 1usmus5 profile) when it comes to testing important aspects of ram stability.

Later (once i had already gotten my DDR5 properly stable at 6800 MT/s) i saw that OCCT was adding support for proper memory testing and that would also extent for linux. There is however a small problem.

To run an OCCT stresstest for more than 1 hour at a time you do however have to pay a subscription fee of 4.50€ a month. there is also annoying wait-time put in place is you do not pay the subscription fee (put in place to push people to pay money).

Of course you can still run multiple 1 hour session without a subscription but you will not be able to just leave it running for hours without paying like you could already do for many years (and still can) with testmem5 in windows.

It's very much a bad showing for the FOSS movement that they couldn't get proper ram testing working on linux for over a decade. Hardware stability is something very basic that needs to just work without any issues.

Note that you need to run several different tests to properly test ram stability and while you can still run mprime large FFT, stressapptest and y-cruncher to stresstest the memory controller in linux you still needed to run testmem5 to test the stability of the ram itself with the timings and frequency you configured.

Note that i have not confirmed that OCCT would actually work as a proper replacement for testmem5 (even if you pay for it) and i also can't test for it myself as long as my DDR5 remains stable. This is however something you can easily test for yourself if you have barely unstable ram settings.

https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/1sgrmly/comment/ofhekhe/?context=1

Memtest pro (aka hci memtest) and karrhu ram test are still windows only. I have not found any way to get karrhu for free but a recent version of memtest pro can be downloaded from RED.

Note that you need to run several different tests to properly test ram stability and while you can still run mprime large FFT, stressapptest and y-cruncher to stresstest the memory controller in linux you still needed to run testmem5 to test the stability of the ram itself with the timings and frequency you configured.

https://vintologi.com/threads/ddr5-overclocking-nightmare.1229/#post-7218

A lot of linux promoters wrongly believe that you simply shouldn't overclock but even running the ram at JEDEC does not actually guarantee stability. XMP and EXPO profiles are tested for the ram sticks themselves but may not actually be stable due to bad CPU or motherboard limitations/issues. Even when EXPO/XMP profiles are stable they tend to leave a lot of performance on the table in addition to the voltages being higher than they need to be (which will cause early degradation of catastrophic hardware failure in some cases).

Even a low effort manual tune is far better than relying just on the XMP/EXPO profile. Raising tREFI alone can give you a significant performance uplift.
 
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