Countries to flee to

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Sweden vs USA
Sweden was not very keen on vaccine mandates, our government does seem to respect the people a lot more than the Canadian and US government.

I didn't agree with the herd immunity strategy Sweden opted for against covid but at least the strategy made logical sense, Anders Tegnell could explain very well why they did what they did, they actually tried to both protect our freedoms and also protect vulnerable against covid, they didn't fully succeed at either but at least they did make a serious attempt.

Anders Tegnell expressed skepticism regarding masks pointed out that it could result in a false sense of security.

Andrew Cuomo told people to use cloth masks which obviously didn't provide much if any protecting against covid.

Things like these are pretty much unthinkable in Sweden:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jan/31/kamala-harris-laughed-jailing-parents-truancy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basket_of_deplorables

Nootherids wrote:

Precisely. People try to compare the US to Sweden but completely fail to account for the differences in trust and respect between and among the people and their government. If you trust that upper government actually has your interest and safety as their primary interest then you’re likely to be mindful of their advice without needing mandates. And of you live in a fairly homogenous culture where people generally understand and respect each other, you’re also more likely to do things by your own free will to help and protect others too.

In the US politicians care very little about the people beyond saying what will get them re-elected. And with our “strength in diversity” we have lost any sense of civil community, so what we’re left with is an innumerable amount of mini communities each with highly opposing interests from the others.
And that’s why as religion has fallen and empowerment of anonymity through the internet has increased, civility seems to be the last thing we expect from each other in the US. Instead we just avoid each other wherever possible.

 

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Are americans complaining "just spoiled"
Winston Sterzel recently claimed that all the complaints you hear from americans about their country is proof that the country is good. Obviously that is not actually the case, people complaining is an indication that their country is bad.

So what are americans spoiled with exactly?

The main thing unites states has had going for them is their economy, they have created a very productive capitalist economy. Looking at the recent inflation figures however it does not seem like that previously good economy is going to remain particularly good. While this inflation is often blamed on Biden the inflation we are seeing now was largely created before he assumed the role as president, both democrats and republicans are to blame for this.

https://fee.org/articles/federal-covid-spending-will-cost-41-870-per-taxpayer-did-you-see-that-much-in-benefit/

The strong economy was largely created by the private sector, it does not mean that the government itself is good. Of course with a bad government it's just a question of time before the economy is also destroyed aswell, eventually the taxes (including inflation) will become soo high that the economy is destroyed.

United states has the highest amount of prisoners/capita in the world, that's not a free society, that's not a functional society.

 

[Claire_Lovely]

Due to the difficulties of immigration and adapting to a new country and learning a new language, it is actually better to withdraw inwards in times of hardship. Being well supplied on food, water, medical supplies, and cryptocurrency should be considered of utmost importance.

 

[Tradpedo]

Leaving your country is a drastic and sometimes neccessary step to take. The fact that you leave does not mean you give up on the country you leave behind, now with internet being politically active does not require you to live in the country you are trying to change, living far away is actually safer since the power structure may target dissidents in various ways.

You dont want to be forced to take harmful psychiatric drugs (community treatment order or psych ward torture) or be jailed becuase you fucked a 13 year old girl.

Estonia
Age of Consent = 14
language = Estonian
imprisonment rate * 100000 = 187
murder rate * 10000000 = 319

https://www.numbeo.com/crime/country_result.jsp?country=Estonia

Iceland
Age of Consent = 15
Language = Icelandic
imprisonment rate * 100000 = 37
murder rate * 1000000 = 30

https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-25201471

Argentina
Age of Consent = 13*
language = Spanish
murder rate * 10000000 = 594

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6735109/

* fucking anyone under 18 can still be illegal depending on circumstances

https://www.ageofconsent.net/world/argentina

Germany
Age of consent = 14
Language = German
Imprisonment rate * 100000 = 94
murder rate * 10000000 = 118

Sweden
Age of consent = 15
language = Swedish
imprisonment rate * 100000 = 43
murder rate * 10000000 = 114

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Sweden#Crime_rates_in_2019

Psychiatry laws are bad but mentally ill people are still ignored due to lack of resources (including people that want to be taken in).

The swedish culture is rather bad but it may be changing to the better.

The swedish public sector is dysfunctional in general and thus having people close to you that you can rely on is important, the dysfunction does also have significant upsides, you are less likely to get convicted after breaking the law (copyright, Age of Consent, hate-speech, etc).

This is Horrible Criteria for a Nation to flee to.

First off a Low Age of consent does not Mean much when there is feminism or a Horrible culture.

Imprisonment Rate is kind of irrelevant also. What is Relevant is how easy it is to avoid the Government or their Enforcement.

Murder Rate is a Side issue. We are all going to die inevitably in the future.



My Critaria for a Good Nation to Flee to is:

Not having Feminism or a Degraded culture.

Not Being a Police state like China or America.

Having Some people of my racial group.

Cost of Living is not Outrageous.