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What, you don't like FeminismIsCancer?
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I think he just doesn't want to convert, but I told him I think one has to be invited to join anyway. And even if you do get invited, if you're slow to respond, that could just be taken as, you were cleaning your room or something and didn't see the PM in time, so there's not really any pressure or need to make an excuse.
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I think some people are just too school for cool and feel like their coolness would be diminished by belonging to anything such as a religion. But atheism and agnosticism surely don't have much of a coolness factor these days, given how their most prominent spokespeople have pretty much gone full SJW.
The only way to counter a religion is with another religion. Going irreligious isn't really an option. Those countries that claim to be atheistic have actually made communism or some other ideology their new religion.
And it turns out that the manosphere has not been able to exist without going religious. Yet, the religions they're turning to, such as Orthodox Christianity or Catholicism, have jumped the shark, and can't really be restored. Islam too is obsolete, and not really well-suited to the white man's civilization.
That leaves Mormonism, but the Mormon church too is probably on its way to becoming cucked. We need to start with a new religion that pulls no punches, and Vintologi seems to fit the bill. Plus it's flexible enough to be adaptive to our changing times, like a newborn whose bones are still capable of being molded.
Nobody else is interested in writing a bible, and the religions of the past aren't really a viable option at this point for many/most of us in the incelosphere (e.g. I can't really join the Mormon church and get much benefit out of it because I have no Mormon family members, and I don't have a job by which I could support a Mormon chick; I pretty much need to just be able to rape-enslave a foid, whom I would keep locked in my basement, kinda like what Brian David Mitchell did; plus I have a reputation as a pedo, plus I haven't renounced and likely won't renounce those views, which might interfere with my acceptance by Mormons). So, we pretty much have to go with Vintologi.
Anyone who doesn't go with Vintologi is basically a loser among losers. The time has come to get behind this religion, because there's no other unifying force in the manosphere that has much strength. Incels.co bans everyone, and it's full of fakecels anyway (including knajjd), plus it's run by a Jew. Only adolf512 has what it takes to lead this movement at this decisive moment in history.
The only way to counter a religion is with another religion. Going irreligious isn't really an option. Those countries that claim to be atheistic have actually made communism or some other ideology their new religion.
And it turns out that the manosphere has not been able to exist without going religious. Yet, the religions they're turning to, such as Orthodox Christianity or Catholicism, have jumped the shark, and can't really be restored. Islam too is obsolete, and not really well-suited to the white man's civilization.
That leaves Mormonism, but the Mormon church too is probably on its way to becoming cucked. We need to start with a new religion that pulls no punches, and Vintologi seems to fit the bill. Plus it's flexible enough to be adaptive to our changing times, like a newborn whose bones are still capable of being molded.
Nobody else is interested in writing a bible, and the religions of the past aren't really a viable option at this point for many/most of us in the incelosphere (e.g. I can't really join the Mormon church and get much benefit out of it because I have no Mormon family members, and I don't have a job by which I could support a Mormon chick; I pretty much need to just be able to rape-enslave a foid, whom I would keep locked in my basement, kinda like what Brian David Mitchell did; plus I have a reputation as a pedo, plus I haven't renounced and likely won't renounce those views, which might interfere with my acceptance by Mormons). So, we pretty much have to go with Vintologi.
Anyone who doesn't go with Vintologi is basically a loser among losers. The time has come to get behind this religion, because there's no other unifying force in the manosphere that has much strength. Incels.co bans everyone, and it's full of fakecels anyway (including knajjd), plus it's run by a Jew. Only adolf512 has what it takes to lead this movement at this decisive moment in history.
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He'd probably feel better if you hadn't taken away his access, even though I guess you maybe have a point that from your perspective, he doesn't need access anymore. Idk, tech people like to be able to continue poking around and comparing how stuff works on different systems, or with different installations that use different versions, etc., since it helps them with their experimentation, learning, and problem-solving and whatnot. But occasionally you'll run into a Zesto or an Ed Snowden who has their own agenda.
Zesto, though, was not a tech guy, which may account for some of his lack of respect for a system that someone put a lot of work into setting up. It's caused us a lot of aggravation. Also, he used to talk about how he paid for our Weebs.is domain, but he set us back that same amount of money by wrecking the server we paid for, plus we lost access to our IncelsAndMaleSexualists.com domain (not sure if that was his doing, but I don't know why else we'd be having trouble getting into the prq.se panel to access it).
FiC isn't Zesto, though, even though obviously FiC doesn't like the tenets of Vintologi all that much. It still is a far step from feeling that way, to wanting to destroy everything. Or at least, it used to be a far step before so many people had an attitude of "shut it down".
Zesto's actually a lot like a chick, in that he basically charms people into being his orbiters and gets their help with tech stuff, which he then only really uses for frivolous purposes, for the most part. And he gets emotional (or just acts maliciously and blames it on his emotionality) and fucks people over and rationalizes his behavior by saying they were the ones who victimized him.
Zesto, though, was not a tech guy, which may account for some of his lack of respect for a system that someone put a lot of work into setting up. It's caused us a lot of aggravation. Also, he used to talk about how he paid for our Weebs.is domain, but he set us back that same amount of money by wrecking the server we paid for, plus we lost access to our IncelsAndMaleSexualists.com domain (not sure if that was his doing, but I don't know why else we'd be having trouble getting into the prq.se panel to access it).
FiC isn't Zesto, though, even though obviously FiC doesn't like the tenets of Vintologi all that much. It still is a far step from feeling that way, to wanting to destroy everything. Or at least, it used to be a far step before so many people had an attitude of "shut it down".
Zesto's actually a lot like a chick, in that he basically charms people into being his orbiters and gets their help with tech stuff, which he then only really uses for frivolous purposes, for the most part. And he gets emotional (or just acts maliciously and blames it on his emotionality) and fucks people over and rationalizes his behavior by saying they were the ones who victimized him.
The security of this site is more important than his feelings, if i would make that gamble i would put all users of this site at risk when there isn't any clear potential gain from doing that.
It takes discipline to make a decision like tha (removing admin access as pre-emptive measure), it's one of the factors that separate successful people from losers.
It takes discipline to make a decision like tha (removing admin access as pre-emptive measure), it's one of the factors that separate successful people from losers.
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Well, now he's probably more hostile toward you than he would've been if you'd catered to his feelings, so that's one of the costs of your decision. Now you have to deal with him considering you the enemy, when if you'd been nicer to him, maybe he would've given you the benefit of the doubt more, and been like, "okay, well it sounds like this religion doesn't favor my kind, but at least the founder of it has extended trust and courtesy by letting me continue to have access, so I guess he isn't all bad, and therefore I'm not going to bash his religion as much as I otherwise might have."
The same can be said about a lot of individuals, doesn't justify giving them admin access, the highest i will grant is moderator powers where you cannot see any IP-addresses, yes this is stricter than needed but it's better to 'go wrong' in that direction. One issue with granting powers to one individual is that it may offend other followers you have that also want said power.
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Yeah, they don't necessarily make you aware of it. I can show you some subpoenas where the government agency has requested that the service provider not tell their customer that the data was shared, because it would impede their investigation.
But, you know, if you gave him access, then he'd probably be able to read all the PMs and whatnot, and then Vintologi would have no secrets from him (except for what you reserved for, e.g., communications via Telegram), and since he's a non-member, maybe you don't want him to have those secrets.
But, you know, if you gave him access, then he'd probably be able to read all the PMs and whatnot, and then Vintologi would have no secrets from him (except for what you reserved for, e.g., communications via Telegram), and since he's a non-member, maybe you don't want him to have those secrets.
Which is why you should protect your selves via TOR or some reliable VPN if you are worried about your government (or any future government where you live).
Unfortunatily accessing this site via tor is usually slow or you might even have to restart tor completely, the reason for this is not known.
https://xenforo.com/community/threads/can-moderators-see-private-messages.124383/
Unfortunatily accessing this site via tor is usually slow or you might even have to restart tor completely, the reason for this is not known.
https://xenforo.com/community/threads/can-moderators-see-private-messages.124383/
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There seem to be two elements to Vintologi: (1) the elite rule he's proposing for the future, and (2) the tranny stuff he's proposing we do now, in 2020.
If you don't feel like chopping your balls off, is there really much else you can do in the here and now, to help bring about this elite rule of the future?
If you don't feel like chopping your balls off, is there really much else you can do in the here and now, to help bring about this elite rule of the future?
Most trannies are not stupid, they don’t cut their balls. They just realize the advantages of being a tranny, but of course they never cut their balls.
I too would claim to be a tranny, just to have access to foids bathroom and to harass lesbian women.
But dressing like a clown or taking hormones is not something I consider.
I too would claim to be a tranny, just to have access to foids bathroom and to harass lesbian women.
But dressing like a clown or taking hormones is not something I consider.
The purpose of the tranny stuff is to be able to offer something to incels willing to join vintologi and this will increase the potential outreach.
Orchiectomy is an idiotic surgery that isn't recommended anywhere in the vintologi bible, SRS isn't recommended either.
https://vintologi.com/threads/trannymaxxing.5/page-2#post-1899
Orchiectomy is an idiotic surgery that isn't recommended anywhere in the vintologi bible, SRS isn't recommended either.
https://vintologi.com/threads/trannymaxxing.5/page-2#post-1899
I am pretty sure you are not actually doing that, it's a bit surprising self-ID laws are almost never abused like that considering how many desperate male perverts there are.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s13178-018-0335-z
Maybe if more people started abusing it they would make it more difficult like require that you medically transition to a degree first and then people like you would no longer consider it becuase you dont want to chemically castrate yourself just to get access to a female bathroom.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s13178-018-0335-z
Maybe if more people started abusing it they would make it more difficult like require that you medically transition to a degree first and then people like you would no longer consider it becuase you dont want to chemically castrate yourself just to get access to a female bathroom.
I am not doing that, correct. I asked to a lawyer if that’s possible and he told me I had to transition first, and then I could ask to change my ID to the registry office.
This takes too much time. And if I never approached a cis-human female in my life of course I will not approach a lesbian one. That was just an idea, but IRL I will never harass a human female.
This takes too much time. And if I never approached a cis-human female in my life of course I will not approach a lesbian one. That was just an idea, but IRL I will never harass a human female.
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Btw if he says, "You fucking disgusting tranny. Go spread your globohomo stuff somewhere else" that just means he's going through the anger phase of his conversion to Vintologi, which means he's made progress from when he used to just deny the doctrine's veracity. Next he'll start bargaining, "Okay, I'll go trans as long as I don't have to chop my balls off" and you can be like, "You, sir, have got yourself a deal".
Well beggars cant be choosers and blackpilled incels are rejected pretty much everywhere, thus there is no reason to offer them anything close to a good deal for joining vintologi.
But a general issue with incels is that they are just unwilling to compromise, they demand things like "virgin 18 year old girlfriend" and thus there is no reason for anyone to even bother listening to what they want, it's simply far easier just to ignore what they want and go along with their plans, they will have to cave eventually.
But a general issue with incels is that they are just unwilling to compromise, they demand things like "virgin 18 year old girlfriend" and thus there is no reason for anyone to even bother listening to what they want, it's simply far easier just to ignore what they want and go along with their plans, they will have to cave eventually.
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A virgin 18-year-old girlfriend shouldn't be that hard for an industrialized economy to produce. What are the requirements, in terms of resources? I calculated once that it's only about $16,000.
Yet somehow the cost got inflated to $36,000/year.
cnbc.com/2018/02/26/survey-finds-32-percent-of-millennials-would-break-up-for-a-37000-raise.html
Anyway, a lot of parents will pay five-digit sums like that for their kid's car, or education, so why shouldn't middle-class incels, even if they're neets (like a lot of these guys who have cars and educations) be able to get a virgin 18-yo wife too? Why shouldn't that be affordable like all these other luxuries?
Yet somehow the cost got inflated to $36,000/year.
cnbc.com/2018/02/26/survey-finds-32-percent-of-millennials-would-break-up-for-a-37000-raise.html
Anyway, a lot of parents will pay five-digit sums like that for their kid's car, or education, so why shouldn't middle-class incels, even if they're neets (like a lot of these guys who have cars and educations) be able to get a virgin 18-yo wife too? Why shouldn't that be affordable like all these other luxuries?
The bottleneck in terms of reproduction is actually females unwilling to get pregnant and give birth, many blatantly state they never want children and thus to get to a decent fertility rate baby quotas is required.
In our current society it makes sense to prioritize high number of children over investing into a fewer number of children due to diminishing returns and the fact that the government is willing to step in if you cannot properly take care of your children.
But then you lose all the money you have invested so far into raising her.
From a darwinian perspective the number of individuals born of each sex should be equal, otherwise the more rare sex will enjoy higher reproductive success incentivizing people to give birth (or otherwise create) individual of said sex.
In our current society it makes sense to prioritize high number of children over investing into a fewer number of children due to diminishing returns and the fact that the government is willing to step in if you cannot properly take care of your children.
But then you lose all the money you have invested so far into raising her.
From a darwinian perspective the number of individuals born of each sex should be equal, otherwise the more rare sex will enjoy higher reproductive success incentivizing people to give birth (or otherwise create) individual of said sex.
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When I was an accountant, I observed that one employee with cancer might consume way more health insurance expenses than the rest of the company combined. And she might not even be that good of an employee; she could be some fat black chick who really only had four hours of work to do in the day, but stretched it out over eight hours.
Yeah, she's covered by insurance, but her costs get factored into our statistics that determine what rate we have to pay.
Sometimes it's better just to cut your losses. Those who get really sick may have bad genetics anyway.
Yeah, she's covered by insurance, but her costs get factored into our statistics that determine what rate we have to pay.
Sometimes it's better just to cut your losses. Those who get really sick may have bad genetics anyway.
It's not clear that baby quotas would help incels, it's likely to instead make females more sympathetic towards females since they are now officially burded by having to give birth to children.
https://vintologi.com/threads/darwinian-vintologi.1/page-4#post-434
https://vintologi.com/threads/darwinian-vintologi.1/page-4#post-434