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'Liberal' democracy
It is worth noting that the supposed liberalism in liberal democracy will be largely limited to letting people do stuff that is detrimental in terms of their survival and reproduction

0. Aborting healthy babies
1. Doing drugs
2. Dying from covid
3. Dying from passive/active euthanasia (outright assisted suicide is allowed in some 'liberal' democracies).
4. Letting females and young boys transition to become infertile.

A note on 2 is that many 'liberal' did actually implement covid restrictions but these almost without exception were doomed to failed from the start.

A note on 4 is that sperm can actually be banked early on in puberty but this is typically not mandatory in liberal democracies. Either early HRT is denied completely or it is given with no requirement for them to preserve fertility.

But what if a 13 year old girl wants to have children with an older male?

Well that is obviously not particularly tolerated in liberal democracies. The male is likely to face persecution if he actually makes her pregnant.

And even if you are allowed to reproduce the government in pretty much all liberal democracies will be pretty heavy handed in arbitrarily depriving parents of custody sending children to abusive foster-care instead.

Fundamentally democracy is incompatible with individual rights since it's all about appealing to potential voters. Fundamentally in a democracy you just have to please enough voters to get into power you can ignore a lot of people who are unlikely to vote for you in the first place. The less likely someone is to vote for you the less worthwhile it is for you trying to get their votes. Why care about rights someone wants if he/she isn't going to vote for you anyway?

And of course you can largely ignore what people under 18 want since these people cannot vote anyway. This is why teenagers are subjected to harmful AoC laws in most western countries. Pleasing their parents is more important and many parents are very prudish when it comes to the sex-lives of their children.

Liberal western countries have thanks to having a lot of economic liberalism has been able to create strong economies thanks largely to actors outside of government. This is the reason why NATO militaries are conventionally strong while weak when it comes to nuclear cababilities (the US does have many offensive nukes but their nuclear shelters are very lacking).

It's very unlikely that 'liberal' democracies will be able to remain competitive against countries governed by elite rule. We are already seeing china in many ways outmanoeuvring western democracies despite having many issues with their government. Had CCP been more competent (such as not implementing the one-child policy) the west would have been in a really bad situation now.
 

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Medical fascism
In most 'liberal' democracies healthcare is the opposite of liberal. It's usually government controlled on paper while in practice unions like the American psychiatric associations hold very significant power enforcing policies that are bad for everyone except their small special interest group.

Of course fundamentally doctors still have to please ignorant voters but that is not particularly hard to do. As long as the voters are pleased they can continue with treatments that do more harm than good.

Things like abusive psychiatry might we an attempt at social control to compensate for the weak official legal system.

Things like vaccine passports were implemented in many areas because most people wanted it. Of course if the vaccine actually works vaccine passports are not needed because then you can just take the vaccine if you are at risk. Of course some people will make the wrong decision but the difference is that individuals have an incentive to look after their own health while government officials have different incentives.
 

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Is there a conflict between (radical) nationalism and trans rights?
When governing a country you can focus on creating a nice place for humans to live now or you can go the nationalist route trying to create some great empire in the future (such as conquering the entire planet).

But if you pursue things like territorial expansionism that will very likely come with a high price to pay. Nationalistic leaders will pursue policies for the sake of preserving the state and its territory at the expense of the well-being of the people (such as forcing people to die in wars, see russia vs ukraine).

A nationalistic leader may also pursue a policy that is harmful for society due to being misguided, this has happened many times in the past and it will likely happen again. Hitler though that he would create a 1000 year old rich only so see the borders shrink to berlin.
Let's take a look at strategies to make the state stronger:

Inclusive societies will be more competitive
By including more people in your society you can make it militarily stronger. It's not in the interest of society to exclude people based on factors such as gender identity, appearance, sexual orientation, birth-sex, etc.

In fact the society may benefit from pushing/forcing people to become a part of society even when they do not really want to. You want more people to pay taxes or join the military.

Fertility and eugenics
The society may benefit from policies to change the breeding pattern of the population in an attempt to cause for society beneficial genes to spread more, that can be pushing/forcing people to have biological children when they don't want to.

Having more people be born means more people that can be sent to die in wars or support the economy for the war-effort.
Trans females can bank sperm prior to transitioning so there doesn't seem to be any conflict here, people of male reproductive-sex are not the reproductive bottleneck in the first place.

MtF transition can in theory allow for lesbians to have children together (one born male, one born female).
There does however seem to be a conflict with regard to FtM transition.

Having capable soldiers
The main potential issue with MtF transition in terms of military power is that the transition will make people physically weaker

https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/early/2020/11/06/bjsports-2020-102329.full

With modern warfare however this really isn't much of a concern. Trans females will still be able to support the military by doing tasks that are less physically demanding (such as working in a weapons factory).
 

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Naturalism debunked
Humans currently live in unnatural societies and many want to instead do live a more natural lifestyle away from things like vaccines and food additives. Many people oppose medical transition simply because they don't view it as "natural" to medically change your sex.

The brutal reality however is that your society is in competition with other societies and by embracing new technology we will be able to outcompete backwards societies unwilling to embrace progress.

Going to far in the naturalism direction will be detrimental also for your own survival, you might die of cancer because you rejected an effective treatment (which happens on a regular basis) or you might fail to reproduce because you weren't willing to use IVF technology.

in order to be successful in society you need to be willing to use effective tools available for you to achieve said success and this may include modifying your body to become more attractive. You might find a girlfriend using a dating app and you also need internet to effectively manage your finances.

Not everyone can switch to eating organic food since then there will not be enough food for everyone. The supply or things like meat from wild animals will always be rather limited and it's therefore not something most people can begin eating on a regular basis, most people will end up having to go vegan or rely on factory farming for their diet (regardless of what's best for the health).
 

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Cuckservatism aka christian conservatism
They are not actually opposing feminism on the stuff that's actually bad for males. Instead they want to make it even worse by preventing people from transmaxxing or abusing self-ID to circumvent gender quotas.

Cuckservatism would never actually promote more teen pregnancies or lower AoC.

Christian conservatives often push for draconian anti-abortion policies that would discourage people from getting pregnant (such as opposing medically necessarily abortions) they do not oppose females refusing to have reproductive sex.

Christian conservatives in general discard science and focus on the bible instead. This is especially bad in the US where conservatives often deny basic stuff like evolution. You really cannot expect much good from these people.


There really isn't any benefit to supporting cuckservatism as a male. Maybe some cis females benefit from it at least the ones who to not engage in reproductive sex (so they will not be subjected to retarded anti-abortion laws) but for most of the population it's clearly not a good thing.

In the past when the US went to war it had real benefits for the country. The US gradually expanded their borders grabbing half of mexico, Hawaii, Guam and other valuable territories. Later however when the US went to war there really wasn't much in terms of benefits for their people from that and it certainty didn't justify the huge cost the war ensued. Cuckservatives want the US military might to be used to secure international peace or whatever instead of focusing on real American interests. The war in afghanistan laster for 20 years and ended with the Taliban quickly gaining back control over the entire country.
 

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Why i do not support the left
What i have noticed is that people in the political left is often successful in destroying existing what's already in place only to replace it with something even worse.

Psychiatry instead of christianity

critical race theory instead of legal equality with regard to race.

State-socialism or worker-coops instead of proper capitalism.

democracy instead of monarchy or elite rule.

gender identity politics instead of gender roles.

Egalitarianism/equity
Rather than having an hierarchical society where you can actually advance to gain more rights and resources the modern left promotes systems of governance where people are not allowed to achieve real greatness. Instead people who are successful are demonized and they left always want them to pay more in taxes even if it would end up damaging the economy as a whole. While it is debatable at what point raising taxes become counter-productive according to far-left ideology they should be raised on the financially successful regardless in order to make society more equal (while the moderate-left only wants them to be raised if it results in more taxes collected in total).
The left is opposed to measures that restrict the right to vote such as requiring people to actually pay taxes or in other significant way actually contribute to society to get the right to vote on important matters.
It is more enjoyable to live in a society where true greatless can actually be achieved. Where you can become the next Augustus or Trajan or at least become a billionare.
People being willing to participate in lotteries for a small chance to get rich does illustrate that people to very much value the chance to actually escape their current mediocre existence even if it is very small and even with the marginal utility of wealth.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/22/new-wharton-study-people-are-happier-when-they-earn-more-money.html

Government control over healthcare
This has been disastrous for trans people in europe and canada, having to wait years just for an appointment. This while capitalism works just fine for giving trans people access to the healthcare they want (at least HRT).
Of course many governments does try to prevent people from buying HRT (while they have to wait years for an appointment for official prescription) and there is also a lot of fear-mongering regarding DIY HRT.
The left is generally in favor of forcing people to take some medical treatments against their will. This can be pressure such as vaccine passports or physical violence against people they view as mentally ill.
From what i have seen when democracies tries to force people into having some medical treatment it's typically not a treatment that is actually beneficial for the individuals subjected to it. The pfizer-vaccine failed to beat placebo in terms of deaths and adverse events, it may have helped stop the spread a little bit though.

https://vintologi.com/threads/male-to-female.5/page-2#post-1808
From Dose 1 through the March 13, 2021 data cutoff date, there were a total of 38 deaths, 21 in the COMIRNATY group and 17 in the placebo group. None of the deaths were considered related to vaccination.​
https://www.fda.gov/media/151733/download

Interestingly it doesn't seem like any dictatorship forcefully injects people with psychiatric drugs outside of psych-wards.

Opposition to sex/gender roles/expectations
When asked "what is a woman" by a transphobe marci bowers could easily answer that:
A woman: it's a combination of your physical attributes, what you are showing the world and the gender clues that you give. Hopefully these matches your gender-identity.​
But a lot of people on the left take issue with that since it applies that some people who identify as female do not actually quality as such via that definition, that however is not a bad thing. It's important to recognize real issues that exist such as the issue of people identifying or wanting to be something they are not, otherwise why bother with medical transition if you are already a woman?

Having gender roles and expectations can actually be a good thing. People generally need guidance and structure in their lives and people do seem to enjoy wearing gendered clothing.

https://bsos.umd.edu/featured-content/conventional-gender-roles

Since men are smarter on average we actually want to have a mostly-male elite since these people are the most capable when it comes to leadership.

It makes sense to have men go to war to for defense and territorial expansionism while females are protected (since they are generally weaker and can often get pregnant).

Sub-replacement fertility and mass-immigration
All developed countries (on earth at least) have failed to implement the authoritarian measures required to get the fertility-rate above replacement.

If your birth-rate is too low you become dependent on having a good system for immigration which requires being selective when it comes to the people able to actually move to your country.
Instead people on the far-left wants to accept everyone or at least the ones who are fleeing from something and they also want to provide all these people with welfare which is obviously a bad idea.
It is worth noting that immigration to the US does seem to be economically beneficial but it does also come with political implications since these people are generally granted the right to vote later which will affect policy. This is less of an issue under authoritarianism.

It's better to just expand your borders so people don't have to move to become a part of your great society.

Not making society competitive
Because people on the left tend to prioritize short-term political ideals over national security and military power what tends to happen is that leftwing societies just cannot compete very well unless they abandon their ideals.
This is a general issue with democracy, politicians tend to prioritize winning the next election rather than considering consequences 20 years in the future.

Often parties claiming to oppose the left are even worse
It's important to regognize that often people claiming to be in opposition to leftwing politics still believe in a lot of leftwing politics and often the parts they oppose are the good stuff such as letting people transition before 18 or support for young people.

https://vintologi.com/threads/debunking-cuckservatism.1089/

Left-'liberalism'
Most western societies do not follow leftwing ideology consistently or even close, instead we tend to see a mix of liberalism, equity and conservatism making it hart to pinpoint which ideology is actually the biggest problem.

https://vintologi.com/threads/liberal-dystopia.1236/
 
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