Many lefties are bad when it comes to transgender stuff
What far left in practice means is extreme egalitarianism, you cannot acknowledge that some people are better or more valuable than others, you have to pretend that everyone is equal.
For example many on the left want to use an inclusive definition of "woman" which is based on self identification rather than "adult human female"
https://www.reddit.com/r/transmaxxing/comments/oosr45/the_case_for_woman_adult_human_female/
The reason many of the left do not want to accept this is because it clearly implies that many people who identify as female are actually male (such as due to not getting access to HRT or not wanting to transition medically).
Many on the left (such as "vaush") to recognize biological sex as a bimodal distribution but still fail to reach the very obvious conclusions from that
- Some people are more female than others
- some people are more male than others
- You can change your biological sex
https://twitter.com/BlackSeaBitch/status/1390758389056147458 transphobic meltdown by Vaush.
Promotion of puberty blockers
It's very common that people on the left promote puberty blockers even though they are unsafe and ineffective and offer near zero practical benefit over full HRT
https://vintologi.com/threads/doctors-cannot-be-trusted.799/#post-4498
Puberty blockers will not halt bone masculinization, you need estrogen for that:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRhdWNwOQAg
It's a general issue that many political youtubers are very bad when it comes to actually analyzing scientific studies, instead they already have a pre-determined political position and then they try to find some studies backing that up.
For example if you look at studies regarding medical transition you see that most of the benefits come from HRT, not surgeries (SRS in particular is pretty questionable).
https://vintologi.com/threads/science-regarding-transexualism.566/#post-5099
Government control over healthcare
The left is naturally opposed to people making their own medical decisions since then some people will do better than others (many will fall victim to quacks while others get early access to effective treatments) that will result in very unequal outcomes which the left view as very bad.
Instead the left want us to democratically decide what treatments people get and this can of course also be involuntary (you being forced to take a treatment due to 51% thinking it was a good idea).
If a young person refuses treatment, which may lead to their death or a severe permanent injury, their decision can be overruled by the Court of Protection.
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/consent-to-treatment/children/
Of course government control over healthcare hasn't worked out too well for trans people with many people having to order hormones online on the internet
https://vintologi.com/threads/male-to-female.5/page-2#post-1808
Many trans people are unaware of this or think it isn't safe and end up waiting years causing irreversible damage.
The right: trans people are bad
the left: you can get HRT after 200 hours of psychotherapy and waiting 5 years.
With "the left" i do not mean people like Joe Biden (he has many flaws but he has been pretty good on trans stuff so far).
The government has control over healthcare. In effect, everything has to be approved by the FDA before it's available for human consumption
You think the US right like and trust the FDA?
Ivermectin isn't approved against covid-19 but a lot of people in the US manage to take it anyway getting around the FDA.
No one is ever forced to take a procedure.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outpatient_commitment
https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2020/may/14/cassandra-callender-forced-to-undergo-chemo-dies-a/
We are also seeing various forms of vaccine mandates being pushed where governments restricts the rights of unvaccinated specifically even though there are masks that offer significantly better protection than any vaccine.
Here is a poll from the
david pakman discord
Like in the UK - the government doesn't 'decide what treatments people get'. The vast, vast majority of procedures (including for trans operations) are covered by the NHS for free - but there is still the option of private healthcare, which is also overwhelmingly cheaper than the US because of the UK governments bargaining power also lowering prices for private firms indirectly.
That's actually a neoliberal system. There was a lot of opposition to that system in Sweden by the left since they do not want private companies to profit from it (at least that's their official justification for opposing these private actors).
You can get free private healthcare in Sweden (paid for via taxes) the left hate that here but do not opposte private companies building roads and bridges, this can be explained by them just wanting to control to ensure "equity".
The reason it is so effective is precisely due to the NHS (national health service - the government funded service) in effect having a monopoly
How is that working out for trans people?
GenderGP had to move to spain due to harrassment from UK authorities.
Sectioning to protect incredibly unstable people. Again - I am going to repeat myself - stop talking about subjects you do not understand in the slightest. Sectioning is done only when absolutely necessary i.e. your safety or someone else's safety would be at risk if you did not get treatment.
The bold is in direct contradiction to the text before it.
Most countries do not even have CTO legislation, only some western democracies have that. It's also not "strictly necessary" to protect people from harming themselves, we can just let people die.
As for being a danger to others: that does not justify forced treatments since then you punish someone for what you think they are going to do in the future, this goes against basic civil rights.
You being a danger to yourself or others could however justify observation/monitoring, no medical treatment is needed here.
The bigger issue is that often forced treatments are not even based on proper evidence, the bar in terms of evidence does need to be a lot higher for that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTQ4t7RmyfM
You argued against the government providing healthcare.
No it was about the government
controlling healthcare such as you being preventing from accessing HRT by medical gatekeeping. I was talking about you not being allowed to get treated at all without government approval (such as by the FDA).
HRT itself is actually very cheap so it's not about funding in this case.
You failed to provide even a single citation for any of your claims.
>The world and FDA aren't banning treatments to discriminate, they're doing it to ensure it's the right decision - even if their decision is wrong, the medical community is acting with good intentions here. They may make mistakes but the decision comes from a lot of fucking research.
We cannot expect a political organization like FDA to do what's best for individual citizens, they are there to please politicians which in turn has to please ignorant voters and donors.
>approval comes after extensive testing to ensure that horrific side effects don't appear
No you also need to show that the drug is effective for FDA approval and this can take years even if it's effective.
>but there are those who refuse help, endanger others, and endanger themselves that it is astoundingly cold and cruel of you to say we should 'just let die'.
Except i didn't say that, i just illustrated that because letting them die is an option forced treatments are not "strictly necessary".
I did however suggest monitoring people that are "a danger to themselves or others" since that shouldn't be enough to warrant involuntary treatments.
People climbing mountains also put themselves in danger, should be force them into therapy due to their dangerous behavior?
But you're right - let's take the ponzi-scheme medication contianing shit that 100% will occur
With your post you clearly illustrated that my description of the left was accurate. You want to protect idiots from their stupidity instead of letting them get their well-earned darwin awards. By doing so you also erode your own rights as well since you might want to do something with your body not currently approved by authorities.
I am able to buy medication online if I wish, against doctors advice.
The only reason you can do that is due to the inability of governments to enforce their regulations. We see that with drugs all the time, government tries and fails to stop people from using them just making everything even worse.
When someone is severely anorexic and suffers organ failure - the drip put into them is punishment. The therapy is punishment
It's rehabilitation (if it works) under coercion which can be justified.
But it has to be strictly regulated legally and we have to ensure it doesn't get abused (such as subjecting people who are not actually anorexic to it).
You can also use forced treatments as social control.